• Owning vs Ride Share

    From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 07, 2022 11:22:00
    On 9/6/22 13:21, Nightfox wrote:
    If you don't have to work in an office every day, or if you live
    near your work, then it's better to not have a car and ride share.
    If you commute over 30 minutes each way, and take road trips through
    the year or travel more, you're better off having transportation.

    There's the freedom matter as well, not to mention shopping becomes
    more constrained if you like to shop in stores.

    If you order your groceries & everything online, I'd think the
    delivery fees and tips could add up significantly.

    It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and
    ride share apps... even if you uber a few times a week. And $50k is
    just a middle ground for a lot of newer cars if you're including
    SUV/Truck options.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Arelor on Wednesday, September 07, 2022 11:24:00
    On 9/6/22 13:44, Arelor wrote:
    The real issue with ridesharing is that oftentimes you end up
    waiting for the other rideshares to show up. Sometimes they
    don't show up and they don't bother to notify you. I used to
    rideshare a lot in the past and, while it cuts costs, it is
    such a pain in the ass at times. A regular bus line is so
    much better (if it exists) despite the fact bus lines have a
    tendency to be poor solutions.

    I'm referring more to "ride share" like Uber/Lift over real ride
    sharing... Though real ride sharing can help a lot if you live/work
    near the same place(s) or in route.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Wednesday, September 07, 2022 16:11:00
    Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 07 2022 11:22 am

    It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and

    who the fuck makes that high of a payment on a car? someone with low credit score and bankrupcy?

    just a middle ground for a lot of newer cars if you're including
    SUV/Truck options.

    people don't need newer cars if they're on a budget.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Tracker1 on Wednesday, September 07, 2022 15:03:00
    Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 07 2022 11:22 am

    It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and ride share apps... even if you uber a few times a week. And $50k is
    just a middle ground for a lot of newer cars if you're including SUV/Truck options.

    I feel like $50K is more than I'd want to spend on a car (and would probably buy more than I'd really need in a vehicle). I think I could find a decent car for a lot less than that (and even less if it's a used car). And ideally if the cost is low enough, I could just buy it outright and avoid paying extra in interest that would come with a loan.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Wednesday, September 07, 2022 15:08:00
    Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to Tracker1 on Wed Sep 07 2022 04:11 pm

    It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and
    insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees
    and

    who the fuck makes that high of a payment on a car? someone with low credit score and bankrupcy?

    I don't know, but in my area, I've been seing plenty of Teslas, BMWs, trucks, etc. that I'm sure cost around that or more, and I wonder how so many people can afford to be paying for such vehicles, or if they're getting loans where they may be paying that much for their vehicle..

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 07, 2022 18:26:00
    Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Sep 07 2022 03:08 pm

    who the fuck makes that high of a payment on a car? someone with low credit score and bankrupcy?

    I don't know, but in my area, I've been seing plenty of Teslas, BMWs, trucks, etc. that I'm sure cost around that or more, and I wonder how so many people can afford to be paying for such vehicles, or if they're getting loans where they may be paying that much for their vehicle..

    there will always be irresponsible people who bite off more than they can chew but it's not the norm. my friend was bipolar and got a truck that was more than his house payment. he had fun showing it off but after a while it was just another truck.

    with bmw's i've seen people buy used ones with high mileage and act like they are ballers.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Wednesday, September 07, 2022 20:19:00
    MRO wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 07 2022 11:22 am

    It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and

    who the fuck makes that high of a payment on a car? someone with
    low credit score and bankrupcy?

    No, somebody who buys an expensive car. Try buying an $80K BMW and see
    what the payment is. Would you like me to tell you?



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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MINDS3 to Tracker1 on Friday, September 09, 2022 00:07:00
    Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 07 2022 11:22 am

    If you order your groceries & everything online, I'd think the
    delivery fees and tips could add up significantly.

    It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and
    ride share apps... even if you uber a few times a week. And $50k is
    just a middle ground for a lot of newer cars if you're including
    SUV/Truck options.

    And if you invested that money, you'd be getting a return, so the total cost would be less when you offset dividends you could be getting.

    I think people are just USED to the idea that you buy a car. It's the done thing, just part of the culture. Something we as a society are brainwashed(?) into doing, an automatic action when we reach that life stage. I would bet most people who bought a car, did not assidiously research the cost/benefit implications of buying vs putting that money elsewhere and using ad hoc services. For many people, whether this lands in favour of buying or not will depend on circumstances. But young people in urban areas, who can walk or bike to work could very well have looked at it and found that not buying is better.

    I work at a company, where quite a few white collar professionals walk or bike to work.

    People are now evaluating it more critically, and realising it doesn't add up.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Boraxman on Thursday, September 08, 2022 08:43:00
    Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Boraxman to Tracker1 on Fri Sep 09 2022 12:07 am

    I think people are just USED to the idea that you buy a car. It's the done thing, just part of the culture. Something we as a society are brainwashed(?) into doing, an automatic action when we reach that life stage. I would bet most people who bought a car, did not assidiously research the cost/benefit implications of buying vs putting that money elsewhere and using ad hoc services. For many people, whether this lands in favour of buying or not will depend on circumstances. But young people in urban areas, who can walk or bike to work could very well have looked at it and found that not buying is better.

    While it makes sense to do a cost/benefit analysis, I also think sometimes people are just willing to pay a bit more for convenience if it has enough value to them. Owning your own car means being able to go where you want, when you want, and being able to transport things. Getting to work and back home every day and not having to wait for a bus (and also not having to wait while the bus picks up & drops off other passengers) is useful. Being able to transport groceries in a car is useful, even if the store is relatively close (I wouldn't want to carry bags of groceries while walking, even just a few blocks).

    Nightfox

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Tracker1 on Thursday, September 08, 2022 07:24:00
    Tracker1 wrote to Nightfox <=-

    It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and ride share apps... even if you uber a few times a week. And $50k is
    just a middle ground for a lot of newer cars if you're including
    SUV/Truck options.

    After the supply-chain debacle, I'll skip the dealer with their "because we can" markups and take that 2006 Honda Accord with 330K miles, peeling clear coat, dirty but intact interior, and complete service records for $1600 that
    I saw.

    I'm amazed at what auto-detailers (or an owner with a portable Bissell cleaner) can do to an interior. I'm not going to buy another used car
    without having the interior detailed again.

    I bought a 2011 Mazda CX-9 for $8000 (great car, killer AWD, seats 7, fun to drive, doesn't feel like 5000+ pounds) and had the interior detailed by
    those people who come to your office with a van. Steam cleaned and
    conditioned leather, headliner cleaned, all the plastic cleaned and treated, carpets and mats shampooed and it looked like new on the inside.

    The outside was in pretty good shape - a hand wash, tire treatment, a little cleaner on the headlights and it was good to go.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Tracker1 on Thursday, September 08, 2022 07:28:00
    Tracker1 wrote to Arelor <=-

    I'm referring more to "ride share" like Uber/Lift over real ride sharing... Though real ride sharing can help a lot if you live/work
    near the same place(s) or in route.

    Uber/Lyft always bothered me. I prefer a plain old taxi. Most of my cab experience was in San Francisco, though - you could walk outside downtown
    and hail a cab in a couple of minutes.

    They all had computerized ride hailing systems, but one time I took a cab
    it had broken down and they had the dispatcher on the radio droning out intersection names and traffic advisories. It felt like something out of an old noir film.

    For some reason, years later, I remember the dispatcher, in that droning monotone he had, reporting a hazard:

    "There's an accident at XXX and YYY, a cab, a truck and a cab".


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Thursday, September 08, 2022 07:30:00
    Nightfox wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    I feel like $50K is more than I'd want to spend on a car (and would probably buy more than I'd really need in a vehicle). I think I could find a decent car for a lot less than that (and even less if it's a
    used car). And ideally if the cost is low enough, I could just buy it outright and avoid paying extra in interest that would come with a
    loan.

    Get the loan, do all of the negotiation up front. Make sure the loan doesn't have a prepayment penalty and pay it off in 30 days.

    You have more negotiating power when they're writing a note on the car, as they make a ton of money on the financing. They have less incentive to negotiate when you're paying cash.


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MINDS3 to Nightfox on Saturday, September 10, 2022 00:05:00
    Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to Boraxman on Thu Sep 08 2022 08:43 am


    While it makes sense to do a cost/benefit analysis, I also think sometimes people are just willing to pay a bit more for convenience if it has enough value to them. Owning your own car means being able to go where you want, when you want, and being able to transport things. Getting to work and back home every day and not having to wait for a bus (and also not having to wait while the bus picks up & drops off other passengers) is useful. Being able to transport groceries in a car is useful, even if the store is relatively close (I wouldn't want to carry bags of groceries while walking, even just a few blocks).

    Try to look at the bigger picture. I know in our society we only ever look at things from a purely individualistic point of view, but the car isn't just you buying one. The tax payer has to pay for infrastructure, this is a MAJOR expense too. It's more than just buying a toothbrush. The whole idea of the car is an investment that society makes at large. Considering that the speed and ease at which we travel in cars declines over time (its taking longer and longer to drive around the city and costs more and more to ameliorate traffic snarls), surely the diminishing returns would be something to consider.

    At some point, we as a society need to examine this critically, and look to urban design which reduces the frequency in which we find the car to be the only viable transportation option.

    I've stated this like 100 times so far, and everyone is fixated on their own personal purchase.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, September 09, 2022 11:09:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tracker1 on Thu Sep 08 2022 07:24 am

    Tracker1 wrote to Nightfox <=-

    It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and ride share apps... even if you uber a few times a week. And $50k is just a middle ground for a lot of newer cars if you're including SUV/Truck options.

    After the supply-chain debacle, I'll skip the dealer with their "because we can" markups and take that 2006 Honda Accord with 330K miles, peeling clear coat, dirty but intact interior, and complete service records for $1600 that I saw.

    I'm amazed at what auto-detailers (or an owner with a portable Bissell cleaner) can do to an interior. I'm not going to buy another used car without having the interior detailed again.

    I bought a 2011 Mazda CX-9 for $8000 (great car, killer AWD, seats 7, fun to drive, doesn't feel like 5000+ pounds) and had the interior detailed by those people who come to your office with a van. Steam cleaned and conditioned leather, headliner cleaned, all the plastic cleaned and treated, carpets and mats shampooed and it looked like new on the inside.

    The outside was in pretty good shape - a hand wash, tire treatment, a little cleaner on the headlights and it was good to go.


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    made for an economy where most folks could replace a car every 3-4 years. if you got 100k miles, you had that car forever and the next owner was the scrap dealer.

    The impasse I've run into is living in the snow belt, and icy roads are treate d with salt in order to melt the ice. Unless you're religious about spraying off your car and under body, rust sets in. my nephew bought a diesel truck with 200k miles on it, and bragged he could drive it over 300k miles. That might be the case if it doesn't rust in half before then.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Boraxman on Friday, September 09, 2022 14:28:00
    Boraxman wrote to Nightfox <=-

    While it makes sense to do a cost/benefit analysis, I also think sometimes people are just willing to pay a bit more for convenience if it has enough value to them. Owning your own car means being able to go where you want, when you want, and being able to transport things. Getting to work and back home every day and not having to wait for a bus (and also not having to wait while the bus picks up & drops off other passengers) is useful. Being able to transport groceries in a car is useful, even if the store is relatively close (I wouldn't want to carry bags of groceries while walking, even just a few blocks).

    Try to look at the bigger picture. I know in our society we only
    ever look at things from a purely individualistic point of view,
    but the car isn't just you buying one. The tax payer has to pay
    for infrastructure, this is a MAJOR expense too. It's more than
    just buying a toothbrush. The whole idea of the car is an
    investment that society makes at large. Considering that the
    speed and ease at which we travel in cars declines over time (its
    taking longer and longer to drive around the city and costs more
    and more to ameliorate traffic snarls), surely the diminishing
    returns would be something to consider.

    At some point, we as a society need to examine this critically,
    and look to urban design which reduces the frequency in which we
    find the car to be the only viable transportation option.

    I've stated this like 100 times so far, and everyone is fixated
    on their own personal purchase.

    Perhaps that is because you're wrong.



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  • From Irish_Monk@VERT/WARPED to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, September 10, 2022 09:16:00
    After the supply-chain debacle, I'll skip the dealer with their "because we can" markups and take that 2006 Honda Accord with 330K miles,
    peeling clear coat, dirty but intact interior, and complete service records for $1600 that I saw.

    I bought a 2010 Toyota Tundra in 2011. In 2011 this is when nobody wanted the bigger trucks/engines. So I was able to get it for a really good deal. I make sure all the maintenance is done on the truck. Its starting to rust a little here and there. But runs great. Im hoping to get 10 more years out of it if I can. Like someone said on here, automobiles are a horrible investment. But part of that is partially do to the way people think now a days. Most people buy a vehicle and only use for like 2 years, trade in for a very low value, and buy another new vehicle. Most likely to just keep up with the Jones.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Irish_Monk on Saturday, September 10, 2022 11:27:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Irish_Monk to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Sep 10 2022 09:16 am

    it if I can. Like someone said on here, automobiles are a horrible investment. But part of that is partially do to the way people think now a days. Most people buy a vehicle and only use for like 2 years, trade in for a very low value, and buy another new vehicle. Most likely to just keep up with the Jones.


    the place i bought me last car from told me about this lady. she buys a new car, drives it for 10k miles and then trades it in. she's probably rich and she's probably helping people by taking away that new car overhead price and letting regular joes buy discounted used cars with nothing wrong with them.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Irish_Monk on Saturday, September 10, 2022 16:51:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Irish_Monk to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Sep 10 2022 09:16 am

    After the supply-chain debacle, I'll skip the dealer with their "becaus we can" markups and take that 2006 Honda Accord with 330K miles, peeling clear coat, dirty but intact interior, and complete service records for $1600 that I saw.

    I bought a 2010 Toyota Tundra in 2011. In 2011 this is when nobody wanted th uns great. Im hoping to get 10 more years out of it if I can. Like someone s trade in for a very low value, and buy another new vehicle. Most likely to j

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    My father has a 2000 withthe Toyota Racing Development suspension package. Still runs like a top. Nice ride, feels much better than most Fords and Chevy's I've been in.

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  • From Irish_Monk@VERT/WARPED to Moondog on Saturday, September 10, 2022 21:29:00
    I bought a 2010 Toyota Tundra in 2011. In 2011 this is when nobody want uns great. Im hoping to get 10 more years out of it if I can. Like some trade in for a very low value, and buy another new vehicle. Most likely

    Irish_Monk

    My father has a 2000 withthe Toyota Racing Development suspension
    package. Still runs like a top. Nice ride, feels much better than most Fords and Chevy's I've been in.

    Yeah I have always been pretty impressed with Toyota cars and trucks myself.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Irish_Monk on Sunday, September 11, 2022 12:38:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Irish_Monk to Moondog on Sat Sep 10 2022 09:29 pm

    My father has a 2000 withthe Toyota Racing Development suspension package. Still runs like a top. Nice ride, feels much better than most Fords and Chevy's I've been in.

    Yeah I have always been pretty impressed with Toyota cars and trucks myself.


    those asian companies share their technology so they have pretty well built cars in comparison to competitors. they last a lot longer, too.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Friday, September 09, 2022 07:46:00
    Nightfox wrote to Boraxman <=-

    While it makes sense to do a cost/benefit analysis, I also think
    sometimes people are just willing to pay a bit more for convenience if
    it has enough value to them. Owning your own car means being able to
    go where you want, when you want, and being able to transport things.


    I never dated without a car. Couldn't imagine how bus dating would have worked, but I suppose it works somehow.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, September 11, 2022 16:21:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri Sep 09 2022 07:46 am

    Nightfox wrote to Boraxman <=-

    While it makes sense to do a cost/benefit analysis, I also think sometimes people are just willing to pay a bit more for convenience if it has enough value to them. Owning your own car means being able to go where you want, when you want, and being able to transport things.


    I never dated without a car. Couldn't imagine how bus dating would have worked, but I suppose it works somehow.



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Sunday, September 11, 2022 17:25:00
    MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I never dated without a car. Couldn't imagine how bus dating would have worked, but I suppose it works somehow.

    your date fucks a guy with a car

    Not everybody dates strippers.



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Gamgee on Monday, September 12, 2022 17:45:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Gamgee to MRO on Sun Sep 11 2022 05:25 pm

    your date fucks a guy with a car

    Not everybody dates strippers.


    No, not everybody does, but still MRO has a bit of a point.

    Relationships have to be maintained. You need to do interesting stuff with your girl or she will become bored and move on with somebody who is more interesting. Being interesting takes resources and that often means if you lack some key resource, you are a bad catch.

    I know I am the anti-romantic prick in town, but with attention spans shortened to the point they are, my observation is that gals ditch their boyfriends more frequently than I take a shower (and I do multiple times a day). Men are very low value in the dating scene because there are so many of us drooling after crumbs. Girls get to decide which guy they like and to change opinion at any time. If you cannot take your girl to places you are pretty much fucked. Rather, you are pretty much not-fucking.


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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to MRO on Monday, September 12, 2022 18:59:00
    your date fucks a guy with a car

    holy shit this was hilarious :D

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Tuesday, September 13, 2022 00:21:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to Gamgee on Mon Sep 12 2022 05:45 pm

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Gamgee to MRO on Sun Sep 11 2022 05:25 pm

    your date fucks a guy with a car

    Not everybody dates strippers.


    No, not everybody does, but still MRO has a bit of a point.

    Relationships have to be maintained. You need to do interesting stuff with y girl or she will become bored and move on with somebody who is more interesting. Being interesting takes resources and that often means if you l some key resource, you are a bad catch.

    I know I am the anti-romantic prick in town, but with attention spans shorte to the point they are, my observation is that gals ditch their boyfriends mo frequently than I take a shower (and I do multiple times a day). Men are ver low value in the dating scene because there are so many of us drooling after crumbs. Girls get to decide which guy they like and to change opinion at any time. If you cannot take your girl to places you are pretty much fucked. Rather, you are pretty much not-fucking.


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    It's worse when you get in your 40's and 50's. One would imagine an older woman would be more confident, less crazy, and more independent. That is not the case. There's nothing like a divorcee that is in a hurry to move in with you because she's temporarily living back home with her parents or a grandparent, and feels uncomfortable bringing a man over. If they have children or college age young adults, lock up and hide all your nice stuff in case the kids are thieves. I'm not saying all kids from broken families are ho ods. Trust and respect need to be earned.

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Tuesday, September 13, 2022 17:25:00
    Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I know I am the anti-romantic prick in town, but with attention spans shortened to the point they are, my observation is that gals ditch
    their boyfriends more frequently than I take a shower (and I do
    multiple times a day). Men are very low value in the dating scene
    because there are so many of us drooling after crumbs. Girls get to
    decide which guy they like and to change opinion at any time. If you cannot take your girl to places you are pretty much fucked. Rather, you are pretty much not-fucking.

    Careful, you are close to incel territory there.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Wednesday, September 14, 2022 14:01:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Tue Sep 13 2022 05:25 pm

    Careful, you are close to incel territory there.


    Reality is then close to incel territory, then, whatever that is supposed to mean.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Wednesday, September 14, 2022 14:05:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to bex on Wed Sep 14 2022 02:01 pm

    Romanticism is dead. Now members in couples just look for selfish instant

    uh, the line got cut. The whole sentence is that members in couples just look for instrant gratification and just don't put any effort in relationships whatsoever. If you are the sort of person who actually wants to put any effort into it, chances are the other person is not gonna reciprocate.

    It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl and impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Arelor on Wednesday, September 14, 2022 13:59:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to bex on Wed Sep 14 2022 02:01 pm

    Reality is then close to incel territory, then, whatever that is supposed to mean.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 14, 2022 17:28:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to Arelor on Wed Sep 14 2022 01:59 pm

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to bex on Wed Sep 14 2022 02:01 pm

    Reality is then close to incel territory, then, whatever that is supposed to mean.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel


    that's a stupid insult liberals came up with.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 14, 2022 18:18:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to Arelor on Wed Sep 14 2022 01:59 pm

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to bex on Wed Sep 14 2022 02:01 pm

    Reality is then close to incel territory, then, whatever that is suppos to mean.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel

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    I honestly don't know how the idea that if you don't pour resources into
    things you won't get crap done can be tagged as incel, then.


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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to Arelor on Wednesday, September 14, 2022 17:55:00
    It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so
    guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl and impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.

    Can't say this has been my experience at all. *shrug*

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to esc on Thursday, September 15, 2022 03:25:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: esc to Arelor on Wed Sep 14 2022 05:55 pm

    It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl an impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.

    Can't say this has been my experience at all. *shrug*


    The number of times I have had a girl make an advance on me is far smaller than the number of girls I have made an advancement on.

    My friends have a similar experience.

    If one sits on his ass expecting for the girl he likes to show up and ask for a date, he is up for a disappointment.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Thursday, September 15, 2022 10:03:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to esc on Thu Sep 15 2022 03:25 am

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: esc to Arelor on Wed Sep 14 2022 05:55 pm

    It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.

    Can't say this has been my experience at all. *shrug*


    The number of times I have had a girl make an advance on me is far smaller t the number of girls I have made an advancement on.

    My friends have a similar experience.

    If one sits on his ass expecting for the girl he likes to show up and ask fo date, he is up for a disappointment.

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    That's one thing I don't like about friends playing matchmaker. That initial spark or sense of chemistry isn't always present. Even though I have never been diagnosed, I suspect I have autism spectrum disorder, and I do not have the same level of emotional need for attachment as most people. I'll go out and have fun, however the rate at which i would like things to progress are much slower. I don't get that "OMG I need her in my life" excited like when
    I was a teen. I think I got burned out long ago, and refuse to trust my feelings of what is love or lust.

    I mentioned this in another thread, dating in your 40's and 50's is a minefield. I think this is neither a man or woman only thing, but some get so
    used to being attached or were married immediately from high school, they cannot function as individuals. They cling too hard on requiring a nother person for emotion support and stability. I'm not sure I would call that love . Maybe a security blanket.

    Another annoyance is I get get in a relationship so i can hear all the crazy bullshit her ex had put ther through. I guess after 20+ years it's hard to avoid talking about her ex, but I get tired of that shit. if they still talk with their ex,it makes me wonder if it is completely over with them?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thursday, September 15, 2022 13:07:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to esc on Thu Sep 15 2022 03:25 am


    My friends have a similar experience.

    If one sits on his ass expecting for the girl he likes to show up and ask for a date, he is up for a disappointment.

    usually people that say they dont have problems are people who take the easy way out and date within friend groups or the workplace.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Moondog on Thursday, September 15, 2022 12:09:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Thu Sep 15 2022 10:03 am

    people. I'll go out and have fun, however the rate at which i would like things to progress are much slower. I don't get that "OMG I need her in my life" excited like when I was a teen. I think I got burned out long ago, and refuse to trust my feelings of what is love or lust.

    It can take time to get to know someone and know they're right for you. If you feel like you really need someone in your life right away and/or want to move in or marry them quickly, you're taking a gamble.

    Another annoyance is I get get in a relationship so i can hear all the crazy bullshit her ex had put ther through. I guess after 20+ years it's hard to avoid talking about her ex, but I get tired of that shit. if they still talk with their ex,it makes me wonder if it is completely over with them?

    Some people still talk to their ex because they had children together. Or sometimes they might have had a stillborn child who they still want to remember and honor, etc.. Some people also have a friendly divorce and are still on good terms with their ex.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Moondog on Thursday, September 15, 2022 14:22:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Thu Sep 15 2022 10:03 am

    I mentioned this in another thread, dating in your 40's and 50's is a minefield. I think this is neither a man or woman only thing, but some get
    used to being attached or were married immediately from high school, they cannot function as individuals. They cling too hard on requiring a nother person for emotion support and stability. I'm not sure I would call that lo . Maybe a security blanket.

    Another annoyance is I get get in a relationship so i can hear all the crazy bullshit her ex had put ther through. I guess after 20+ years it's hard to avoid talking about her ex, but I get tired of that shit. if they still talk with their ex,it makes me wonder if it is completely over with them?


    I think our society has a big problem, in which we are served this idea that unless we are in a relationship, we are losers. A lot of people try to get into a relationship, but when you ask them what the goals are for such relationship, they have not a clue.

    Seriously? Are you gonna sink so many resources into something and you don t know what you do want it for?

    My hypothesis is that a lot of people just tries to get into relationships because that is what is expected from them. I think my aunt has never loved anybody, for example. Her first marriage was due to the fact "it was the right time for a wedding". The next one was because he needed a guy to use up and cast aside once spent.

    The most powerful reason for geting in a stable relationship would be to further up some common long term interest. I am talking of things like building a family, or a business, or a long-term operation. I think a girl you can do such things with is worth the investment, but I have serious doubts there is a lot of marging for doing any of these things with a post 40s yo woman. WIth one of those you are going to have the burden of her past relationships and kids and whatever have you, and at that point I seriously doubt you are going to have the energy to build anything meaningful as if one were in his 20s.

    I am going to be very crude outright and declare most women past that point are a bad investment not even a vulture fund should consider for their investment folder, unless the plan is to use and dump the assets.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Thursday, September 15, 2022 17:27:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Thu Sep 15 2022 10:03 am


    That's one thing I don't like about friends playing matchmaker. That initial spark or sense of chemistry isn't always present. Even though I have never been diagnosed, I suspect I have autism spectrum disorder, and I

    one other thing about the friend matchmaker shit: nothing lasts forever, so when the breakup comes people normally have to pick sides. so everyone loses a friend.

    i went out with a group and i clicked real good with this chick in the female group and then people told me to lay off because they had a guy for her. she was the one who approached me and wanted to spend time because we were both outsiders.

    so i laid off and left and this guy got her high and drunk and he ended up date raping her. nice friends!


    Another annoyance is I get get in a relationship so i can hear all the crazy bullshit her ex had put ther through. I guess after 20+ years it's hard to avoid talking about her ex, but I get tired of that shit. if they still talk with their ex,it makes me wonder if it is completely over with them?

    yeah you got someone with baggage. a little bit of talk once in a while is okay , but people should move on or just not date when they arent ready.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Thursday, September 15, 2022 17:29:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Thu Sep 15 2022 10:03 am

    feelings of what is love or lust.

    I mentioned this in another thread, dating in your 40's and 50's is a minefield. I think this is neither a man or woman only thing, but some get so


    you can be like that gamgee guy and marry the prostitute you and your buddies used to frequent when you were overseas in the military. they will be happy to marry and be out of that situation.

    i don't think she will keep doing the "me so horny" act once she settles in, though.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thursday, September 15, 2022 17:31:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Thu Sep 15 2022 12:09 pm

    Some people still talk to their ex because they had children together. Or

    you can be civil and help parent, but you don't have to 'talk' or be friends. over is over.

    sometimes they might have had a stillborn child who they still want to remember and honor, etc..

    ew wierd.

    Some people also have a friendly divorce and are
    still on good terms with their ex.

    they call that fuck buddies. another unhealthy thing.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Thursday, September 15, 2022 18:28:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to Moondog on Thu Sep 15 2022 05:27 pm

    one other thing about the friend matchmaker shit: nothing lasts forever, so when the breakup comes people normally have to pick sides. so everyone loses a friend.

    This is a big annoyance of mine. I think I have already commented on it.

    Friends are typically longer-lasting than romantic relationships. Risking friendships, which are expected to last for long, in order to maintain a romance, which is statistically expected to be
    short lived, is a bad deal.

    Pussy should not beat friendship. If you let that happen, you deserve what is coming.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Thursday, September 15, 2022 18:39:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Sep 15 2022 05:31 pm

    Some people still talk to their ex because they had children together. Or

    you can be civil and help parent, but you don't have to 'talk' or be friends.
    over is over.


    The main reason to avoid a serious relationship with somebody who has a burden is that her burden will end up being your burden too.

    A friend of mine got into a romance with a single mother who had her kid with 16. He ended up acting more like a parent than as a boyfriend. Bonus anti-points because this guy hates kids and
    has made it clear over and over again that he plans not to produce any little monster. I think he thought he could bed this woman and keep the contact with the kid to a minimum, but the harsh
    truth is that if you engage with a gal who comes with a larvae from a previous relationship... her larvae comes first and you come second in her priorities. That, if you are lucky.

    Last time I saw this guy both mother and larvae had moved into this guy's house and he was freaking out because he didn't want to deal with the kid, but didn't want to end the relationship
    either. It is extremely important to be able to see these things before hand. If I got something serious with a woman, my horses and dogs come in Falken's package, so if you don't want horses
    and dogs, don't fucking buy the fucking package. Same with single mothers.

    I haven't seen this guy for ages, but last I have heard is he got rid of his troubles and is now dating somebody else. It is never late to learn from your mistakes and correct them :-)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thursday, September 15, 2022 19:54:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to MRO on Thu Sep 15 2022 06:39 pm

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Sep 15 2022 05:31 pm

    Some people still talk to their ex because they had children together. Or

    you can be civil and help parent, but you don't have to 'talk' or be friends.
    over is over.


    The main reason to avoid a serious relationship with somebody who has a burden is that her burden will end up being your burden too.

    A friend of mine got into a romance with a single mother who had her kid with 16. He ended up acting more like a parent than as a boyfriend. Bonus anti-points because this guy hates kids and has made it clear over and over again that he plans not to produce any little monster. I think he thought he could bed this woman and keep the contact with the kid to a minimum, but the harsh truth is that if you engage with a gal who comes with a larvae from a previous relationship... her larvae comes first and you come second in her priorities. That, if you are lucky.

    Last time I saw this guy both mother and larvae had moved into this guy's house and he was freaking out because he didn't want to deal with the kid, but didn't want to end the relationship either. It is extremely important to be able to see these things before hand. If I got something serious with a woman, my horses and dogs come in Falken's package, so if you don't want horses and dogs, don't fucking buy the fucking package. Same with single mothers.

    I haven't seen this guy for ages, but last I have heard is he got rid of his troubles and is now dating somebody else. It is never late to learn from your mistakes and correct them :-)



    well he seems like someone that was blind to what he was getting into.
    i was with my on and off gf for like 13 years. i helped raise her child. i got her off the bottle and i taught her how to tie her shoes.

    the last time we were together she turned against me, and she turned the kid against me which hurt really bad. then the woman was crying when i moved out.

    total waste of my time to be with this person and i take ownership of that. i learn from all my mistakes, though.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thursday, September 15, 2022 20:14:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Sep 15 2022 05:31 pm

    Some people also have a friendly divorce and are
    still on good terms with their ex.

    they call that fuck buddies. another unhealthy thing.

    I didn't suggest anything about fucking your ex..

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  • From Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to Nightfox on Thursday, September 15, 2022 18:58:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Thu Sep 15 2022 12:09:21

    people. I'll go out and have fun, however the rate at which i would like things to progress are much slower. I don't get that "OMG I need her in my life" excited like when I was a teen. I think
    I got burned out long ago, and refuse to trust my feelings of what is love or lust.
    It can take time to get to know someone and know they're right for you. If you feel like you really need someone in your life right away and/or want to move in or marry them quickly, you're taking a
    gamble.

    and just to add to this... It is a gamble NOT worth taking... i've made that mistake TWICE... and gotten divorced.... TWICE... don't be like me... Spend time with them first and i dont mean for 6 months lol

    Another annoyance is I get get in a relationship so i can hear all the crazy bullshit her ex had put ther through. I guess after 20+ years it's hard to avoid talking about her ex, but I get
    tired of that shit. if they still talk with their ex,it makes me wonder if it is completely over with them?

    Unfortunately, you're going to get that... Just reinforce to them that you're not their ex and that they need to trust you... if at the end of the day they contonue comparing you to them, then they don't wann a be with you they wanna be with their ex. *cough second divorce cough*

    Some people still talk to their ex because they had children together. Or sometimes they might have had a stillborn child who they still want to remember and honor, etc.. Some people also have a
    friendly divorce and are still on good terms with their ex.

    I get the stillborn thing, and i've been lucky, never had to go through anything like that, i've still civil with my 2nd divorcee, the first one i havent spoken to since then... she was the proverbial "only got married for the kid". havent seen said kid since he was 8 (not by choice either)... that was over 10 years ago now. but out of respect for my current girlfriend i don't talk about it.

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  • From Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to MRO on Thursday, September 15, 2022 19:00:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to Moondog on Thu Sep 15 2022 17:29:53

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Thu Sep 15 2022 10:03 am

    feelings of what is love or lust.

    I mentioned this in another thread, dating in your 40's and 50's is a minefield. I think this is neither a man or woman only thing, but some get so
    this is true, however. at that age you both know what you want and it does actually make it a little easier - speaking from experience.

    you can be like that gamgee guy and marry the prostitute you and your buddies used to frequent when you were overseas in the military. they will be happy to marry and be out of that situation.
    i don't think she will keep doing the "me so horny" act once she settles in, though.

    LMAO.... i wouldn't worry... THEY ARE ALL LIKE THAT! hooker or not LOL

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Thursday, September 15, 2022 22:16:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Thu Sep 15 2022 12:09 pm

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Thu Sep 15 2022 10:03 am

    people. I'll go out and have fun, however the rate at which i would lik things to progress are much slower. I don't get that "OMG I need her in life" excited like when I was a teen. I think I got burned out long ago and refuse to trust my feelings of what is love or lust.

    It can take time to get to know someone and know they're right for you. If

    Another annoyance is I get get in a relationship so i can hear all the crazy bullshit her ex had put ther through. I guess after 20+ years it' hard to avoid talking about her ex, but I get tired of that shit. if th still talk with their ex,it makes me wonder if it is completely over wi them?

    Some people still talk to their ex because they had children together. Or s x.

    Nightfox

    i understand friendly divorces and communication due to shared custody. It's when you hear enough t make you feel like you're the second prize and she
    still wants her first prize.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Friday, September 16, 2022 01:11:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Sep 15 2022 08:14 pm

    Some people also have a friendly divorce and are
    still on good terms with their ex.

    they call that fuck buddies. another unhealthy thing.

    I didn't suggest anything about fucking your ex..


    you have reading problems
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Friday, September 16, 2022 02:28:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Sep 15 2022 08:14 pm

    Some people also have a friendly divorce and are
    still on good terms with their ex.

    they call that fuck buddies. another unhealthy thing.

    I didn't suggest anything about fucking your ex..

    Nightfox

    No, you didn't, but I the untold reason why the conversation has branched out down this path is precisely because there exist doubt somebody is fucking her ex XD

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to MRO on Friday, September 16, 2022 09:51:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Sep 14 2022 05:28 pm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel


    that's a stupid insult liberals came up with.


    Incorrect, that group of drooling dipshits named themselves that.

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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to DaiTengu on Friday, September 16, 2022 13:26:00
    Incorrect, that group of drooling dipshits named themselves that.

    Yeah lol I seem to recall some dude attacked a bunch of people while saying the equivalent of "incel represent!"

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Friday, September 16, 2022 15:16:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: DaiTengu to MRO on Fri Sep 16 2022 09:51 am

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Sep 14 2022 05:28 pm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel


    that's a stupid insult liberals came up with.


    Incorrect, that group of drooling dipshits named themselves that.

    I don't think there's an actual group that gave themselves that name. apparently the internet says a woman created a website about it. who knows, it's just wikipedia. i've been around long enough and had my eyes open enough to not trust anything on the internet.

    it's just a word created by assholes to insult other assholes.

    and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to esc on Friday, September 16, 2022 15:49:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: esc to DaiTengu on Fri Sep 16 2022 01:26 pm

    Incorrect, that group of drooling dipshits named themselves that.

    Yeah lol I seem to recall some dude attacked a bunch of people while saying the equivalent of "incel represent!"

    that just sounds like trolling though.

    that being said, i've seen womans groups on facebook where these women are cut off from sex from their husbands and do man trashing.
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to MRO on Friday, September 16, 2022 18:36:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to DaiTengu on Fri Sep 16 2022 03:16 pm

    Incorrect, that group of drooling dipshits named themselves that.

    I don't think there's an actual group that gave themselves that name. apparently the internet says a woman created a website about it. who knows, it's just wikipedia. i've been around long enough and had my eyes open enough to not trust anything on the internet.

    They did. shit, they even created their own group on reddit (r/incels) which was eventually banned when reddit started to get popular and the owners realized "oh shit, we could actually get in trouble for some of the shit people are saying on this site"

    it's just a word created by assholes to insult other assholes.

    It's possible "incel" was coined by someone else, but they referred to themselves as "involuntarily celibate" since the 90s. I remember running into a group of them on IRC at one point, back when I was in high school, so that must have been '93-94 or so (some friends and I took over their IRC channel for a time. it was hilarious).

    and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.

    Yeah, I was a giant, awkward nerd and I still managed to get a girlfriend, and get married. (will be 25 years in May)

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Friday, September 16, 2022 20:33:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: DaiTengu to MRO on Fri Sep 16 2022 06:36 pm

    apparently the internet says a woman created a website about it. who knows, it's just wikipedia. i've been around long enough and had my eyes open enough to not trust anything on the internet.

    They did. shit, they even created their own group on reddit (r/incels) which was eventually banned when reddit started to get popular and the owners realized "oh shit, we could actually get in trouble for some of the shit people are saying on this site"


    it's just internet games and bullshit. i wouldnt pay it any attention.


    and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.

    Yeah, I was a giant, awkward nerd and I still managed to get a girlfriend, and get married. (will be 25 years in May)

    all you need to do is find a woman complaining about her husband or boyfriend. and that's not hard.

    younger people have sex quite freely. and if you're gay you can go to a monkeypox orgy session.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Saturday, September 17, 2022 09:54:00
    and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.

    Around here, if you try to get it "anywhere" you are asking for trouble.

    I agree, tho, it does sound made up.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Saturday, September 17, 2022 09:56:00
    that being said, i've seen womans groups on facebook where these women are cu
    off from sex from their husbands and do man trashing.

    Are cut off, or cut their husbands off? It is usually the latter.

    I am amazed when either partner cuts the other one off and then acts shocked when that partner start looking elsewhere to find it.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DAITENGU on Saturday, September 17, 2022 09:57:00
    It's possible "incel" was coined by someone else, but they referred to themsel
    s as "involuntarily celibate" since the 90s. I remember running into a group
    f them on IRC at one point, back when I was in high school, so that must have en '93-94 or so (some friends and I took over their IRC channel for a time. it
    as hilarious).

    I could see younger people calling themselves that.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, September 17, 2022 14:14:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Sep 17 2022 09:54 am

    and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.

    Around here, if you try to get it "anywhere" you are asking for trouble.


    where are you at right now? a day care?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, September 17, 2022 14:15:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Sep 17 2022 09:56 am

    that being said, i've seen womans groups on facebook where these women are cu
    off from sex from their husbands and do man trashing.

    Are cut off, or cut their husbands off? It is usually the latter.

    I am amazed when either partner cuts the other one off and then acts shocked when that partner start looking elsewhere to find it.


    i cut off my gf who had borderline because she was always starting drama.
    she tried to look for ass online but couldn't get anybody.
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dumas Walker on Saturday, September 17, 2022 14:20:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Dumas Walker to DAITENGU on Sat Sep 17 2022 09:57 am

    I could see younger people calling themselves that.

    Yeah, it's definitely younger people for the most part. They grow up a bit, realize that being a bi-polar raging douche-canoe isn't the way to start a relationship, and move on.

    At least, most of them do. Some never grow up, and wind up going to prison for violent offenses, where they then become "involuntarily not-celibate"


    These fuckwads insist that women owe them sex, find like-minded chicken-chokers (easy to do on the internet now days), and after spending enough time having their own thoughts echoed back to them in these toxic cesspits they call "communities", they go out start harassing women. Eventually they take it to the level of assault.

    DaiTengu

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Saturday, September 17, 2022 21:27:00
    Re: Incels
    By: DaiTengu to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 17 2022 02:20 pm

    At least, most of them do. Some never grow up, and wind up going to prison for violent offenses, where they then become "involuntarily not-celibate"


    These fuckwads insist that women owe them sex, find like-minded chicken-chokers (easy to do on the internet now days), and after spending enough time having their own thoughts echoed back to them in these toxic cesspits they call "communities", they go out start harassing women. Eventually they take it to the level of assault.

    our young people have a lot of bullshit to deal with. their minds are still developing so there's all kinds of influences from racism to abnormal sexuality and other ideals.

    my ex's daughter's school changed from a regular middle school into a 'fine arts school'. bascially half the kids there thought they were gay or trans. i'm not joking or exaggerating. this is what i saw when i went there and this is what she told me. they were all being influenced by various things to think that being gay/trans is cool. even kids that weren't gay were pretending to be gay or cross dressing. that's what happens when you fuck with little kid's minds. i never saw anything like that.

    people with gender identity disorder have a very high suicide rate and they arent getting the help they need. on top of that we have a society that has turn into a hate machine pitting people against eachother.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to DaiTengu on Saturday, September 17, 2022 22:36:00
    Re: Incels
    By: DaiTengu to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 17 2022 02:20 pm

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Dumas Walker to DAITENGU on Sat Sep 17 2022 09:57 am

    I could see younger people calling themselves that.

    Yeah, it's definitely younger people for the most part. They grow up a bit,

    At least, most of them do. Some never grow up, and wind up going to prison


    These fuckwads insist that women owe them sex, find like-minded chicken-chok ut start harassing women. Eventually they take it to the level of assault.

    DaiTengu

    ... I must follow them. I am their leader.


    Neither side holds the de facto high ground. There's damaged goods on both sides of the fence. Men are accused of being the assholes and aggressors, however I have also seen quite a few passive men who are relationships with women who act as if they own their husbands. The guys talk smack with their friends, then go home and put on the puppy leash and take the abuse.

    One of my "Facebook" friends, a girl I knew from school that was a few years above me in my sister's class, always post and complains about not finding Mr Right. There's been several times I've created a response, then changed it before hitting send. Every time I see her, it is in a bar or place with a
    beer garden and band playing. I would like to tell her unless she tries a different type of pond, she will continue to catch the same type of fish.
    What I fear is she is a functioning alcoholic, and there's not much in her
    life outside of socializing where alcohol is served.

    I've reached a point in my life where I do not feel empty or need somebody in my life, so I no longer shop. Despite this, I still find women who are more than a bit friendly or some form of chemistry is present. If I'm even trying and find prospects, these hopeless romantics on either side are looking in
    the wrong places.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Sunday, September 18, 2022 02:49:00
    Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to DaiTengu on Sat Sep 17 2022 10:36 pm

    One of my "Facebook" friends, a girl I knew from school that was a few years above me in my sister's class, always post and complains about not finding Mr Right. There's been several times I've created a response, then changed it before hitting send. Every time I see her, it is in a bar or place with a
    beer garden and band playing. I would like to tell her unless she tries a different type of pond, she will continue to catch the same type of fish. What I fear is she is a functioning alcoholic, and there's not much in her life outside of socializing where alcohol is served.

    she knows what she's doing and that's what she likes. if she's complaining that's just her looking for attention.


    people always find what they are looking for.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Sunday, September 18, 2022 05:03:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to DaiTengu on Fri Sep 16 2022 03:16 pm

    and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.


    It is not terribly common, but there is a bunch of people who are psychologically
    emasculated. They'd had a girl but they have this mind blockade bounding them. They
    talk all day long about not being able to get laid but when you mention any of the
    available methods for achieving just that, they block and say that does not work for
    them.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Sunday, September 18, 2022 05:41:00
    Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:49 am

    she knows what she's doing and that's what she likes. if she's complaining that's j


    people always find what they are looking for.

    I am sure some people are just like that. In other cases, I think it is just a matter
    of them finding what they look for, but not what they want, because they look for the
    wrong deal.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Sunday, September 18, 2022 12:59:00
    Re: Incels
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Sep 18 2022 05:41 am

    Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:49 am

    she knows what she's doing and that's what she likes. if she's complainin


    people always find what they are looking for.

    I am sure some people are just like that. In other cases, I think it is just of them finding what they look for, but not what they want, because they loo wrong deal.

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    If you get into your 50's and 60's and still hang in bars, doing the same
    stuff you were doing when you were in your 20's and 30's, I'm afraid there is little chance of maturity. People aren't always doomed and some are just
    late bloomers and finally wise up much later than they wished they did.
    Others accept the logic, yet their hearts lead them back down the same path.

    Something I have found amusing are the ladies who were stunningly attractive
    in their younger years trying to maintain that arrogance in their later
    years. Some look like they've barely aged, or age like wine, and have gooten better. I'm not talking about them. I'm referring the girls in school that were popular and were perceived to be out of most guy's league, and dated older men or the captain of the football team. Some haven't held up well,
    but rely on the nostalgia of being placed on a pedestal, yet haven't shed
    that behavior they had in school.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sunday, September 18, 2022 10:25:00
    and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.

    Around here, if you try to get it "anywhere" you are asking for trouble.


    where are you at right now? a day care?

    No. :) Adult women. Lots of alcoholics and drug addicts and
    emotional/mental instability. Oh, yeah, and bible-thumpers.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sunday, September 18, 2022 13:58:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Sep 18 2022 05:03 am

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to DaiTengu on Fri Sep 16 2022 03:16 pm

    and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.


    It is not terribly common, but there is a bunch of people who are psychologically emasculated. They'd had a girl but they have this mind blockade bounding them. They talk all day long about not being able to get


    there's just a lot of crazy people in the world. there's nothing that people won't do or think up.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Sunday, September 18, 2022 14:01:00
    Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Sep 18 2022 12:59 pm


    If you get into your 50's and 60's and still hang in bars, doing the same stuff you were doing when you were in your 20's and 30's, I'm afraid there is little chance of maturity. People aren't always doomed and some are just late bloomers and finally wise up much later than they wished they did. Others accept the logic, yet their hearts lead them back down the same path.


    it depends on the type of bar. some bars are where you can meet new friends. it's just not people getting drunk.

    there's this bar i used to go to that had awesome food. everyone there was friendly. the other town bar owners would stop in and buy a whole round.
    they had different activites and live music.

    it's important to get out of the house.
    some stuff is too expensive or if you're alone you just cant go to.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Sunday, September 18, 2022 17:39:00
    Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:01 pm

    it depends on the type of bar. some bars are where you can meet new friends. it's just not people getting drunk.

    there's this bar i used to go to that had awesome food. everyone there was friendly. the ot
    they had different activites and live music.

    it's important to get out of the house.
    some stuff is too expensive or if you're alone you just cant go to.

    I find it very non-compelling to go to a place in order to make friends. I am a very task
    oriented person. If I go to a place it has to be in order to accomplish some specific goal. If
    I befriend somebody doing that, it is great, but moving my ass in order to talk randomly to
    people sounds so off-putting :-(

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Monday, September 19, 2022 00:19:00
    Re: Incels
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Sep 18 2022 05:39 pm

    I find it very non-compelling to go to a place in order to make friends. I am a very task oriented person. If I go to a place it has to be in order to accomplish some specific goal. If I befriend somebody doing that, it is great, but moving my ass in order to talk randomly to people sounds so off-putting :-(


    you dont have to go to a place 'to make friends'; like everything else, it just happens.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Sunday, September 18, 2022 20:32:00
    Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:01 pm

    Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Sep 18 2022 12:59 pm


    If you get into your 50's and 60's and still hang in bars, doing the same stuff you were doing when you were in your 20's and 30's, I'm afraid ther is little chance of maturity. People aren't always doomed and some are j late bloomers and finally wise up much later than they wished they did. Others accept the logic, yet their hearts lead them back down the same pa


    it depends on the type of bar. some bars are where you can meet new friends. it's just not people getting drunk.

    there's this bar i used to go to that had awesome food. everyone there was f they had different activites and live music.

    it's important to get out of the house.
    some stuff is too expensive or if you're alone you just cant go to.

    We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids"
    in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a
    smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.

    Another issue is how far a person wants to drive with any amount of alcohol in their system. If you have to drive 30 minutes home through several
    smaller towns or through suburbs that are known for heavy police presence, a trip to the tavern 5 minutes away sounds more appealing. Several of the wineries and breweries have their version of a public house, or "pub,"
    however their prices are considerable more if you're having more than just a f ew drinks with dinner.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MINDS3 to Moondog on Monday, September 19, 2022 21:56:00
    Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

    Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:01 pm

    Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Sep 18 2022 12:59 pm


    If you get into your 50's and 60's and still hang in bars, doing the same stuff you were doing when you were in your 20's and 30's, I'm afraid ther is little chance of maturity. People aren't always doomed and some are j late bloomers and finally wise up much later than they wished they did. Others accept the logic, yet their hearts lead them back down the same pa


    it depends on the type of bar. some bars are where you can meet new friends. it's just not people getting drunk.

    there's this bar i used to go to that had awesome food. everyone there was f they had different activites and live music.

    it's important to get out of the house.
    some stuff is too expensive or if you're alone you just cant go to.

    We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole
    in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids" in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.

    Another issue is how far a person wants to drive with any amount of alcohol in their system. If you have to drive 30 minutes home through several smaller towns or through suburbs that are known for heavy
    police presence, a trip to the tavern 5 minutes away sounds more appealing. Several of the wineries and breweries have their version of
    a public house, or "pub," however their prices are considerable more if you're having more than just a f ew drinks with dinner.

    I don't think there is any issues going to bars, pubs and clubs at that age. If that it is *all* you do, then there is a problem, but being old shouldn't mean you stop socialising, stop meeting new people, stop having fun. Isn't it normal in many places in the world for old people to sit at a bar or cafe? They're enjoying life!

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Monday, September 19, 2022 08:00:00
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Sunday 18.09.22 - 17:39, Arelor wrote to MRO:

    I find it very non-compelling to go to a place in order to
    make friends. I am a very task oriented person. If I go to
    a place it has to be in order to accomplish some specific
    goal. If I befriend somebody doing that, it is great, but
    moving my ass in order to talk randomly to people sounds so
    off-putting :-(

    Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
    spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
    travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
    difference in your life.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Ogg on Monday, September 19, 2022 08:37:00
    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 08:00 am

    Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
    spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
    travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
    difference in your life.

    Maybe it's the area I live in, but people here generally don't talk to other shoppers while shopping. But different activities can lend themselves to meeting people more easily.

    Nightfox

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Monday, September 19, 2022 09:06:00
    Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 12:19 am

    Re: Incels
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Sep 18 2022 05:39 pm

    I find it very non-compelling to go to a place in order to make friends. am a very task oriented person. If I go to a place it has to be in order accomplish some specific goal. If I befriend somebody doing that, it is great, but moving my ass in order to talk randomly to people sounds so off-putting :-(


    you dont have to go to a place 'to make friends'; like everything else, it j

    The concept of social clubs or social organizations has been decline for at least 20 years. The younger generation doesn't make the time for it, or
    cannot make the meetings or do not have time to hang out. Some have replaced it with soical media or apps such as discord so they don't have to show up
    or leave a physical building with limited hours of operation.

    My father is a meber of the American Legion and also the Order of the Moose, but they do less family things these days and it's more or less about sitting in the bar part of their clubhouse. I have a drink occasionally, but i do
    not drink as a hobby or regular habit. Hanging at these clubs seeing the
    same people each day and not doing anything active never appealed to me. I joined a conservation club so i could use their shooting range facilities,
    then got active in the board of directors helping to improve the club for the membership, and help bring in new people. There's some work to be done at times, but it provides a common thread for conversation with members. It's also good for networking, as in acquisition of goods or skills. many social clubs were developed for this purpose. Price cuts on labor and goods.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Boraxman on Monday, September 19, 2022 09:14:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: Boraxman to Moondog on Mon Sep 19 2022 09:56 pm

    Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

    Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:01 pm

    Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Sep 18 2022 12:59 pm


    If you get into your 50's and 60's and still hang in bars, doing the s stuff you were doing when you were in your 20's and 30's, I'm afraid t is little chance of maturity. People aren't always doomed and some ar late bloomers and finally wise up much later than they wished they did Others accept the logic, yet their hearts lead them back down the same


    it depends on the type of bar. some bars are where you can meet new frien it's just not people getting drunk.

    there's this bar i used to go to that had awesome food. everyone there wa they had different activites and live music.

    it's important to get out of the house.
    some stuff is too expensive or if you're alone you just cant go to.

    We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids" in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.

    Another issue is how far a person wants to drive with any amount of alcohol in their system. If you have to drive 30 minutes home through several smaller towns or through suburbs that are known for heavy police presence, a trip to the tavern 5 minutes away sounds more appealing. Several of the wineries and breweries have their version of a public house, or "pub," however their prices are considerable more if you're having more than just a f ew drinks with dinner.

    I don't think there is any issues going to bars, pubs and clubs at that age. If that it is *all* you do, then there is a problem, but being old shouldn't mean you stop socialising, stop meeting new people, stop having fun. Isn't normal in many places in the world for old people to sit at a bar or cafe? They're enjoying life!


    That's fine as you say. I'm referring to people that only spend their spare time in a bar, or at least most of their free time. The maturity thing comes in when there are people who regularly get pissed drunk like they're kids, and
    never learned what the term "mind your pints and quarts" means. Have a good time, but don't become an embarrassing drunk in public.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Monday, September 19, 2022 14:58:00
    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 08:00 am

    Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
    spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
    travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
    difference in your life.


    i'm sure approaching someone when they are shopping is totally NOT creepy.

    also traveling alone is creepy.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Monday, September 19, 2022 15:03:00
    Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 09:06 am


    you dont have to go to a place 'to make friends'; like everything else, it j

    The concept of social clubs or social organizations has been decline for at least 20 years. The younger generation doesn't make the time for it, or cannot make the meetings or do not have time to hang out. Some have

    there's lot of bars shit in my city where everyone goes to socialize.

    My father is a meber of the American Legion and also the Order of the Moose, but they do less family things these days and it's more or less about sitting in the bar part of their clubhouse. I have a drink occasionally, but i do
    not drink as a hobby or regular habit. Hanging at these clubs seeing the same people each day and not doing anything active never appealed to me. I joined a conservation club so i could use their shooting range facilities,

    you're talking about mooselodge right? and headquarters is mooseheart?

    that shit is boring. you can't compare that to other shit. same with american legion.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Monday, September 19, 2022 15:04:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to Boraxman on Mon Sep 19 2022 09:14 am

    age. If that it is *all* you do, then there is a problem, but being old shouldn't mean you stop socialising, stop meeting new people, stop having fun. Isn't normal in many places in the world for old people to sit at a bar or cafe? They're enjoying life!


    That's fine as you say. I'm referring to people that only spend their spare time in a bar, or at least most of their free time. The maturity thing comes in when there are people who regularly get pissed drunk like they're kids, and
    never learned what the term "mind your pints and quarts" means. Have a good time, but don't become an embarrassing drunk in public.


    those are alcoholics. not everyone is an alcoholic. i drink beer to sober up.

    so you don't get out of the house to do any activities?
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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Monday, September 19, 2022 16:02:00
    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so
    guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl
    and impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.

    Interestingly enough, your clarification made you sound like *more* of an incel, not less. The classic incel believe that they are "involuntarily celibate" but are owed sex, whether it's just for being alive, or for
    having the bad luck to be short or not attractive. They go hand in had with
    the "nice guy," who believe they are owed sex because they do things like
    open doors for women, pay women compliments, do things for women, pretend
    to be a woman's friend. They're the kind who whine about the "friend zone"
    too.

    Anyway, you're reduction of human romantic relationships to a "simple" financial transaction is so close to part of the incel world that it's difficult to see the difference.


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Moondog on Monday, September 19, 2022 16:48:00
    Moondog wrote to Arelor <=-

    It's worse when you get in your 40's and 50's. One would imagine an
    older woman would be more confident, less crazy, and more independent.

    Hey now, I'm a 52 year old woman!

    That is not the case. There's nothing like a divorcee that is in a
    hurry to move in with you because she's temporarily living back home
    with her parents or a grandparent, and feels uncomfortable bringing a

    Is it possible you are painting all women by one particular woman?



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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to MRO on Monday, September 19, 2022 16:51:00
    MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel

    that's a stupid insult liberals came up with.

    I think incels exist on both sides of the political spectrum. It is incels
    themselves who coined the term and defined the core tenets of being an
    incel. No one needs to insult self-aware incels, they insult themselves.


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Monday, September 19, 2022 16:58:00
    Arelor wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I honestly don't know how the idea that if you don't pour resources
    into things you won't get crap done can be tagged as incel, then.

    Because you are equating relationships to financial transactions, and you
    sound like you are saying that you somehow earn the interest of a potential romantic interest thruogh the use of money.

    Or is that not what you were saying?


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Monday, September 19, 2022 17:35:00
    Arelor wrote to esc <=-

    The number of times I have had a girl make an advance on me is far
    smaller than the number of girls I have made an advancement on.

    Y'know, it could just be that you haven't met any girls that were
    interested enough to make an advance on you.

    :)

    I am not discounting your assertion that men are more likely to make
    initial contact, but I also think that it isn't true. We women do things
    like try to strike up conversations, maybe point out common interests ("I
    love that book you've got there, it was so good I read it twice"). Communication is what's important, and you don't have to spend money to communicate with a woman! If one of us likes you, meeting up in a park and chatting for a couple hours makes for a fantastic date.

    I really think you're over-thinking things, Mr. Sir.

    My friends have a similar experience.

    Of that I have absolutely no doubt.


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to MRO on Monday, September 19, 2022 17:51:00
    MRO wrote to Arelor <=-

    My friends have a similar experience.

    If one sits on his ass expecting for the girl he likes to show up and ask for a date, he is up for a disappointment.

    usually people that say they dont have problems are people who take the easy way out and date within friend groups or the workplace.

    I don't see how dating within a workplace or within a friends group is
    "taking the easy way out". I think they are just as valid as meeting
    someone at a library or a book store or at a park or online. The place
    doesn't matter - though it can lead to some embarrassing "how did you two
    meet" stories. :)


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Monday, September 19, 2022 22:15:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: MRO to Ogg on Mon Sep 19 2022 02:58 pm

    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 08:00 am

    Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
    spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
    travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
    difference in your life.


    i'm sure approaching someone when they are shopping is totally NOT creepy.

    also traveling alone is creepy.

    My aunt is a very social person. One time I flew with to a wedding in New York, and during the holdovers in between fights we'd stop in a bar and find
    a random person to talk to. She used to be a social worker, and could read people pretty well. She would find somethin interesting about what the
    person is wearing, or maybe it's their age (she liked to help keep an eye on y oung people traveling) and talk to make time pass. Part of this might've
    bene done to calm her nerves, since she hated the moment before boarding the plane. The conversation was small talk, nothing giving away personal information or anything current or relevant.

    Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store feels odd. In a department or specialty store, it is different because the conversation can
    be more specific. A good comparison is the bar, because you at least know
    the person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed of how many women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and are single.)

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Monday, September 19, 2022 22:31:00
    Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Mon Sep 19 2022 03:03 pm

    Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 09:06 am


    you dont have to go to a place 'to make friends'; like everything else it j

    The concept of social clubs or social organizations has been decline for least 20 years. The younger generation doesn't make the time for it, or cannot make the meetings or do not have time to hang out. Some have

    there's lot of bars shit in my city where everyone goes to socialize.

    My father is a meber of the American Legion and also the Order of the Moo but they do less family things these days and it's more or less about sitting in the bar part of their clubhouse. I have a drink occasionally but i do
    not drink as a hobby or regular habit. Hanging at these clubs seeing the same people each day and not doing anything active never appealed to me. joined a conservation club so i could use their shooting range facilities

    you're talking about mooselodge right? and headquarters is mooseheart?

    that shit is boring. you can't compare that to other shit. same with americ

    Yes, they have declined over the years in popularity and membership activity.
    When I was a child the clubs hosted baseball and softball leagues, soccer,
    and other sports. The Sons or Auxilliary would host dinners and dances, and other family oriented or fund raising event open to the public. One town had four or five baseball diamonds on their property, and would host touranments which coincided with holiday or town festivals. The parade would either
    end up at the legion hall, or people would go there after the parade.

    The Legion post I belong to hosts the property used for parking during the
    4th of July fireworks, and the fire department raises the funds to buy the fireworks. We would host them on the 3rd instead to get a larger crowd. We have a beergarden, serve food, and have a band or two play the afternoon and
    up to and after the fireworks. We also recently had a street dance, and that raised a large crowd. Mileage varies between towns and how active their memberships regarding social events.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Monday, September 19, 2022 22:55:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Mon Sep 19 2022 03:04 pm

    Re: Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to Boraxman on Mon Sep 19 2022 09:14 am

    age. If that it is *all* you do, then there is a problem, but being ol shouldn't mean you stop socialising, stop meeting new people, stop hav fun. Isn't normal in many places in the world for old people to sit a bar or cafe? They're enjoying life!


    That's fine as you say. I'm referring to people that only spend their sp time in a bar, or at least most of their free time. The maturity thing comes in when there are people who regularly get pissed drunk like they'r kids, and
    never learned what the term "mind your pints and quarts" means. Have a good time, but don't become an embarrassing drunk in public.


    those are alcoholics. not everyone is an alcoholic. i drink beer to sober u

    so you don't get out of the house to do any activities?

    I get out and do things. My point was some do nothing other than park on a
    bar chair, and little else. I find it to be sad since there in more to life than reaching the bottom of a bottle.

    I like hiking, cycling, camping, and I'm on the board of directors of a conservation club. We teach hunter's education, archery, and various levels
    of academic sport shooting and defensive shooting. I was recruited or ask to serve on the board 12 years ago because we had ideas for improving hte club, and needed technical advisory to make sure it got done. I stick around to remind newer board members as to why we try to maintain long term plans
    versus spend money like there is no tomorrow and spend it wisely.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Ogg on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 13:16:00
    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 08:00 am

    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Sunday 18.09.22 - 17:39, Arelor wrote to MRO:

    I find it very non-compelling to go to a place in order to
    make friends. I am a very task oriented person. If I go to
    a place it has to be in order to accomplish some specific
    goal. If I befriend somebody doing that, it is great, but
    moving my ass in order to talk randomly to people sounds so
    off-putting :-(

    Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
    spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
    travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
    difference in your life.

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    Most people suck big time and deserve to die. I am sure as heck I am not going to
    actively try to meet somebody unless it is done in order to achieve some objective.

    Then you make an actual friend and he gets cancer and then COVID the same day, and the
    Welfare dudes decide to collectivelly murder the guy by inaction.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 13:32:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 04:02 pm

    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl and impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.

    Interestingly enough, your clarification made you sound like *more* of an incel, not less. The classic incel believe that they are "involuntarily celibate" but are owed sex, whether it's just for being alive, or for
    having the bad luck to be short or not attractive. They go hand in had with the "nice guy," who believe they are owed sex because they do things like open doors for women, pay women compliments, do things for women, pretend
    to be a woman's friend. They're the kind who whine about the "friend zone" too.

    Anyway, you're reduction of human romantic relationships to a "simple" financial transaction is so close to part of the incel world that it's difficult to see the difference.


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    I suspect you are trying to lump me in with a group I have no affiliation with, so I
    will make it easy for you:

    People sucks and uses other people as assets.

    Women are people. Therefore they suck and use other people as assets. Just as men do.
    Big surprise.

    We humans are very good at convincing ourselves we are not using others as assets, and
    that we do stuff for love and whatever, but in the end of the day partnetships are ALL
    about getting something in exchange of something or jointly pooling resources to
    achieve results.

    People keeps idealizing human-to-human relations and getting mad when you point this
    fact at them. Then they go on using other people up and casting them aside once no
    longer useful.

    If you check prior messages you will find I have been holding this view for long and
    no longer when it comes to romantic relation ships. In fact my bigger complaints
    regarding this effect come from business relationships and regular friendships.

    But whatever.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 13:38:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 04:58 pm

    Arelor wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I honestly don't know how the idea that if you don't pour resources into things you won't get crap done can be tagged as incel, then.

    Because you are equating relationships to financial transactions, and you sound like you are saying that you somehow earn the interest of a potential romantic interest thruogh the use of money.

    Or is that not what you were saying?


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    You don't necessarily earn the interest of a romantic partner, but sure as hell you
    need to use resources in order to keep it.

    Resources need not be money. They can be time or whatever have you.

    If you don't do anything with your girlfriend at all, she becomes bored with you
    (understandably). However, taking your girlfriend out needs resoures. Even if my date
    plan consists in staying at home playing boardgames and RPGs, setting such date requires me to have the finantial stability to be able to afford losing an evening
    worth of work. Achieving that finantial stability takes resources.

    Dennying what I say is akin to dennying that you can keep somebody's romantic interest
    without investing time and effort in the relationship. If that is your position then I
    have a bridge to sell to you.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 13:40:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 05:35 pm

    Arelor wrote to esc <=-

    The number of times I have had a girl make an advance on me is far smaller than the number of girls I have made an advancement on.

    Y'know, it could just be that you haven't met any girls that were
    interested enough to make an advance on you.

    :)

    I am not discounting your assertion that men are more likely to make
    initial contact, but I also think that it isn't true. We women do things like try to strike up conversations, maybe point out common interests ("I love that book you've got there, it was so good I read it twice"). Communication is what's important, and you don't have to spend money to communicate with a woman! If one of us likes you, meeting up in a park and chatting for a couple hours makes for a fantastic date.

    I really think you're over-thinking things, Mr. Sir.

    My friends have a similar experience.

    Of that I have absolutely no doubt.


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    I am just not meeting people out of business scenarios, which suits me fine.

    I don't overthink. I observe.

    As said before, a cheap date in the park still uses up resources.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Moondog on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 13:45:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:15 pm

    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: MRO to Ogg on Mon Sep 19 2022 02:58 pm

    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 08:00 am

    Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
    spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
    travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
    difference in your life.


    i'm sure approaching someone when they are shopping is totally NOT creepy.

    also traveling alone is creepy.

    My aunt is a very social person. One time I flew with to a wedding in New York, and during the holdovers in between fights we'd stop in a bar and find a random person to talk to. She used to be a social worker, and could read people pretty well. She would find somethin interesting about what the person is wearing, or maybe it's their age (she liked to help keep an eye on y
    oung people traveling) and talk to make time pass. Part of this might've bene done to calm her nerves, since she hated the moment before boarding the plane. The conversation was small talk, nothing giving away personal information or anything current or relevant.

    Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store feels odd. In a department or specialty store, it is different because the conversation can be more specific. A good comparison is the bar, because you at least know the person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed of how many women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and are single.)

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    There is a difference between sparking up some friendly talk with somebody you are
    supposed to be talking to, and trying to get a conversation started out of the blue.
    Big difference.

    See, if I go order a burger from the local bar, and the bar is not very busy at that
    our, and I bring some subject up with the barman as he prepares the burguer, that is
    not creepy.*

    If I go to Logistics with a bulk of packages and bring some spontaneous conversation
    with the counter guy as he labels the packages and places them in the conveyor belt,
    that is not creepy.*

    If you go to a bar and walk to a random guy and start talking about the weather, that
    is very, VERY WHAT THE FUCK.

    *Asuming the conversation does not distract people from their task, obviously.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 13:52:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 05:35 pm

    Y'know, it could just be that you haven't met any girls that were
    interested enough to make an advance on you.

    By the way, I don't deal with enough people to make for a substantial statistical
    pool, but there was an study somewhere that claimed 92 or 94% of women prefered to be
    approached and that the rest was the minority that would act on their own.

    The ones that advance themselves seem to be the "Live Dangerously and Die Young"
    variety, in my experience.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 15:03:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:15 pm

    Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store feels odd. In a department or specialty store, it is different because the conversation can be more specific. A good comparison is the bar, because you at least know the person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed of how many women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and are single.)

    they may SAY they are single, but there's probably a dude or two who would beg to differ. some women are nuts. my crazy ex said she was single and alone for years raising her daughter but guess who was there every day... me.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 15:04:00
    Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:31 pm


    that shit is boring. you can't compare that to other shit. same with americ

    Yes, they have declined over the years in popularity and membership activity.
    When I was a child the clubs hosted baseball and softball leagues, soccer, and other sports. The Sons or Auxilliary would host dinners and dances, and other family oriented or fund raising event open to the public. One town had four or five baseball diamonds on their property, and would host


    well the mooselodge does a lot of good things for communities with fundraising and other things. it's also a good way to network with other business owners. young people arent into that stuff so it's on the decline.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 15:06:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:55 pm



    those are alcoholics. not everyone is an alcoholic. i drink beer to sober u

    so you don't get out of the house to do any activities?

    I get out and do things. My point was some do nothing other than park on a bar chair, and little else. I find it to be sad since there in more to life than reaching the bottom of a bottle.

    i dont reach the bottom of the bottle. i just go out to see weird shit and funny shit and get out of the house. i have maybe one beer and i'm big so that beer does nothing to me.

    I like hiking, cycling, camping, and I'm on the board of directors of a conservation club. We teach hunter's education, archery, and various levels of academic sport shooting and defensive shooting. I was recruited or ask to serve on the board 12 years ago because we had ideas for improving hte club, and needed technical advisory to make sure it got done. I stick around to remind newer board members as to why we try to maintain long term plans

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 17:12:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Moondog on Mon Sep 19 2022 04:48 pm

    Moondog wrote to Arelor <=-

    It's worse when you get in your 40's and 50's. One would imagine an older woman would be more confident, less crazy, and more independent.

    Hey now, I'm a 52 year old woman!

    That is not the case. There's nothing like a divorcee that is in a hurry to move in with you because she's temporarily living back home with her parents or a grandparent, and feels uncomfortable bringing a

    Is it possible you are painting all women by one particular woman?



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    By no means am I painting with a wide brush. I knew several that were like this, but wouldn't call them being close to average or normal. My brother rents a room from me and right now he has a steady girlfriend. His previous two acted like they were in a hurry to move in and place their kids in the spare room we use as a workout room. When he'd tell them that is my call
    house and he can't make that call, they were pressuring him to split the rent and move somewhere else. That would be fine if this was decided over several months and they had time to see who they're getting involved with, but
    instead this was ridiculously fast.

    I know several women in their 40's and 50's who are mature, independent, do
    not play games and are in search of a relationship rather than a sucker they can wrap around their finger. Searching for a good match takes time, but
    there are some behaviors or other signs that tell you to look elsewhere. Guys
    are messed up, too. Some can be clingy, emotional wrecks needing constant affirmation and affection.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BEX on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 16:57:00
    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl
    and impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.

    Anyway, you're reduction of human romantic relationships to a "simple" financial transaction is so close to part of the incel world that it's difficult to see the difference.

    I did not read it that way. I have not ever met any women who are
    impressed by someone who cannot afford to go out anywhere and do things
    with them, unless all they are looking for is "Netflix and chill." Even if
    the woman is set on paying her own way, she wants someone who can afford to
    go places with her. So it is an upfront investment (in something that
    might not work) and that does take resources.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 19:36:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to bex on Tue Sep 20 2022 01:40 pm

    I am not discounting your assertion that men are more likely to make initial contact, but I also think that it isn't true. We women do things like try to strike up conversations, maybe point out common interests ("I love that book you've got there, it was so good I read it twice"). Communication is what's important, and you don't have to spend money to communicate with a woman! If one of us likes you, meeting up in a park and
    chatting for a couple hours makes for a fantastic date.

    BTW, starting a conversation is not making a move. Far from it.

    Getting close to a guy and telling him that you like that book he is reading is an
    attempt at getting him to make a move. When I want a girl I knock on her door and ask
    her out. Starting a random conversation with a man and expecting him to ask you out is
    to asking him out what phoning the police because you want them to shoot a drug dealer
    is to shooting a drug dealer down.

    I would argue that the ones having problems with communication are not usually the
    dudes. When a dude wants something with a girl, and the girl is not interested, the
    guy rarely gets a straight answer. It is always an "I am busy" or "Maybe next week" or
    some other cover-up. Granted, most guys will pick this up, but this does not count as
    good communication. At all.

    Damn, then some autistic dude takes "I am too busy to date you this week" at face
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  • From Hustler@VERT/DMINE to Arelor on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 23:19:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to bex on Tue Sep 20 2022 07:36 pm

    I would argue that the ones having problems with communication are not usually the dudes.
    When a dude wants something with a girl, and the girl is not interested, the guy rarely
    gets
    a straight answer. It is always an "I am busy" or "Maybe next week" or some other
    cover-up.
    Granted, most guys will pick this up, but this does not count as good communication. At
    all.

    Man, it all sounds way to exhausting to me!

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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to MRO on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 22:38:00
    i dont reach the bottom of the bottle. i just go out to see weird shit
    and funny shit and get out of the house. i have maybe one beer and i'm big so that beer does nothing to me.

    I stopped drinking alcohol in July of 2021 and realized that alcohol was bringing out sides of my personality that I was not a fan of. And I've never really been able to do the "one drink and go home" thing. I think a lot of people can have a decent relationship with alcohol, I'm not one of them, and I'm better off sober.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 23:47:00
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Tuesday 20.09.22 - 13:16, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

    Most people suck big time and deserve to die. I am sure as
    heck I am not going to actively try to meet somebody unless
    it is done in order to achieve some objective.

    I knew a friend who consistently failed with establishing a GF.
    His modus operandi was to get a girl for a wife and have kids,
    and he said that he threw that question out there early in the
    dating game. And he wondered why he rarely got a 2nd date.

    Then you make an actual friend and he gets cancer and then
    COVID the same day, and the Welfare dudes decide to
    collectivelly murder the guy by inaction.

    Uh-oh. Sorry if I triggered a bad memory.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Moondog on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 23:56:00
    Hello Moondog!

    ** On Monday 19.09.22 - 22:15, Moondog wrote to MRO:

    Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store
    feels odd. In a department or specialty store, it is
    different because the conversation can be more specific. A
    good comparison is the bar, because you at least know the
    person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed
    of how many women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and
    are single.)

    Talking in a grocery store to people feels odd but not in a gun
    shop? There HAS to be some extensive talking beyond personal
    ID to know if the women are single. :D

    My point is that ANY chance meeting anywhere can evolve into
    purposeful meetings somewhere else if you let it (like a
    hobbiest group that two people share interest in, or an evening
    college class).

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to esc on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 02:43:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: esc to MRO on Tue Sep 20 2022 10:38 pm

    i dont reach the bottom of the bottle. i just go out to see weird shit and funny shit and get out of the house. i have maybe one beer and i'm big so that beer does nothing to me.

    I stopped drinking alcohol in July of 2021 and realized that alcohol was bringing out sides of my personality that I was not a fan of. And I've never really been able to do the "one drink and go home" thing. I think a lot of people can have a decent relationship with alcohol, I'm not one of them, and I'm better off sober.

    I don't think i can get addicted to anything lowkey. i'd probably get addicted to some type of hard drug just like everyone else does.

    to me alcohol doesn't even taste good. i just drink good whiskey to unwind and get to sleep sometimes.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 02:48:00
    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Tue Sep 20 2022 11:47 pm

    I knew a friend who consistently failed with establishing a GF.
    His modus operandi was to get a girl for a wife and have kids,
    and he said that he threw that question out there early in the
    dating game. And he wondered why he rarely got a 2nd date.


    i don't think there's anything wrong with being direct, just as long
    as the delivery isn't crappy.

    Then you make an actual friend and he gets cancer and then
    COVID the same day, and the Welfare dudes decide to
    collectivelly murder the guy by inaction.

    Uh-oh. Sorry if I triggered a bad memory.

    millions of people died of covid because they were denied ****HORSE DEWORMER*** and that medication that trump and others took "hydroxychloroquine" and other medicines. that's what happens when you get evil pharmaceutical companies like merck involved with this bullshit. ivermectin is like 1 penny a dose.

    it's came out that some of these medications do help covid treatment.

    it pisses me off that grandmas had to die alone in hospital beds and they couldn't hug their loved dones. What comes around goes around. Everyone that caused this drama is going to have to pay for their sins somehow, I believe.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 02:48:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Ogg to Moondog on Tue Sep 20 2022 11:56 pm

    My point is that ANY chance meeting anywhere can evolve into
    purposeful meetings somewhere else if you let it (like a
    hobbiest group that two people share interest in, or an evening
    college class).



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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to MRO on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 02:19:00
    to me alcohol doesn't even taste good. i just drink good whiskey to
    unwind and get to sleep sometimes.

    I sometimes take a cannabis gummy to go to sleep. Works really well. And doesn't have that same effect on me to take more.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MINDS3 to Ogg on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 20:32:00
    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 08:00 am

    I find it very non-compelling to go to a place in order to
    make friends. I am a very task oriented person. If I go to
    a place it has to be in order to accomplish some specific
    goal. If I befriend somebody doing that, it is great, but
    moving my ass in order to talk randomly to people sounds so
    off-putting :-(

    Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
    spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
    travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
    difference in your life.

    I tend to think like that too, that when I go somewhere, I should just get the task I need done as efficiently. But that doesn't work well for me, because I don't end up meeting new people. The benefit of getting things done "efficiently" doesn't outweigh the opportunity cost of potentially meeting new interesting people.

    So I am trying to consciously open my mind to the possibility to meeting people, wherever I may be, but it is hard.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MINDS3 to Moondog on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 20:35:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to Boraxman on Mon Sep 19 2022 09:14 am

    I don't think there is any issues going to bars, pubs and clubs at that age. If that it is *all* you do, then there is a problem, but being old shouldn't mean you stop socialising, stop meeting new people, stop having fun. Isn't normal in many places in the world for old people to sit at a bar or cafe? They're enjoying life!


    That's fine as you say. I'm referring to people that only spend their spare time in a bar, or at least most of their free time. The maturity thing comes in when there are people who regularly get pissed drunk like they're kids, and
    never learned what the term "mind your pints and quarts" means. Have a good time, but don't become an embarrassing drunk in public.

    Understandable, and I agree. It would get boring doing the same thing everyday for your entire life, never living in any other mode.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/PHARCYDE to esc on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 07:17:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: esc to MRO on Tue Sep 20 2022 10:38 pm

    I stopped drinking alcohol in July of 2021 and realized that alcohol was bringing out sides of my personality that I was not a fan of. And I've never really been able to do the "one drink and go home" thing. I think a lot of people can have a decent relationship with alcohol, I'm not one of them, and I'm better off sober.

    I hear that. I was a Jeckle and Hide when I drank. I'm not one of the ones that can drink and have a healthy relationship neither.

    |07 HusTler


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Ogg on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 07:44:00
    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Tue Sep 20 2022 11:47 pm

    Uh-oh. Sorry if I triggered a bad memory.

    Not a bad memory, because it is not a memory. It is happening right now.

    True loyalty is, after life sustaining resources and after time, the most valuable
    resource we have, and we still lose it to random bullshit the world wants to throw at
    us.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Ogg on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 07:48:00
    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Tue Sep 20 2022 11:47 pm

    I knew a friend who consistently failed with establishing a GF.
    His modus operandi was to get a girl for a wife and have kids,
    and he said that he threw that question out there early in the
    dating game. And he wondered why he rarely got a 2nd date.


    Well, if you are trying to sell a product, you first have to convince the buyer that
    the product is awesome, and you only talk about the price once the buyer is set to
    purchase the product (unless the product's selling point is the price itself).

    You sure as heck don't try to sell yourself by stating your price upfront, specially
    if it is not a cheap price.

    Girls do this all the time, on the other hand, which is a blessing, because it allows
    you to kick them off the list early.

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Moondog on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 09:32:00
    Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

    We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole
    in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids" in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.

    I dunno if I'd say it is ironic. If I were single, I would avoid any
    bar/lounge whose clientele's average age was less than 40. Folks in their
    20s and early 30s look like kids to me, more and moreso as I get older.

    I think that's more "natural" than "ironic".


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to MRO on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 09:49:00
    MRO wrote to esc <=-

    that being said, i've seen womans groups on facebook where these women are cut off from sex from their husbands and do man trashing. ---

    "That woman's group on Facebook is just as bad" in no way makes incels
    less horrible than they are. Incels are a sad, pathetic, extremely
    frightening group of mysoginists whose anger is almost always close to the boiling point and who forever see women as "females" who are both less
    than human an unworthy of being anything but walking vaginas.

    Incels are not just a group of guys who are mad about not being able to
    find a sexual partner, they are a group of men with major mental illnesses
    that have deluded themselves into believing that the world exists only to
    mock and attack them. And unfortunately they have mobilized and some are starting to act out violently.

    Within the last few years, there was an incel in Toronto who purposefully
    drove a van down a sidewalk in a busy part of the city. He killed eleven
    people and injured like twice that many. Incel circles rejoiced! That's
    one of the main reasons that r/incel was banned, along with its attempted replacements (e.g. r/braincels).

    But don't take my word for it:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/13/toronto-van-murders-court-victim-2018-attack
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/incel-threat-secret-service-report/



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to bex on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 16:52:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to MRO on Wed Sep 21 2022 09:49 am

    "That woman's group on Facebook is just as bad" in no way makes incels less horrible than they are. Incels are a sad, pathetic, extremely frightening group of mysoginists whose anger is almost always close to the boiling point and who forever see women as "females" who are both less than human an unworthy of being anything but walking vaginas.

    It reminds me of what I've read of the Men Going Their Own Way movement and/or the Red Pill movement.

    Nightfox

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 14:37:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Arelor to Moondog on Tue Sep 20 2022 01:45 pm

    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:15 pm

    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: MRO to Ogg on Mon Sep 19 2022 02:58 pm

    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 08:00 am

    Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
    spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
    travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good difference in your life.


    i'm sure approaching someone when they are shopping is totally NOT cre

    also traveling alone is creepy.

    My aunt is a very social person. One time I flew with to a wedding in N York, and during the holdovers in between fights we'd stop in a bar and f a random person to talk to. She used to be a social worker, and could re people pretty well. She would find somethin interesting about what the person is wearing, or maybe it's their age (she liked to help keep an eye oung people traveling) and talk to make time pass. Part of this might've bene done to calm her nerves, since she hated the moment before boarding plane. The conversation was small talk, nothing giving away personal information or anything current or relevant.

    Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store feels odd. In department or specialty store, it is different because the conversation c be more specific. A good comparison is the bar, because you at least kno the person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed of how ma women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and are single.)

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    There is a difference between sparking up some friendly talk with somebody y supposed to be talking to, and trying to get a conversation started out of t Big difference.

    See, if I go order a burger from the local bar, and the bar is not very busy our, and I bring some subject up with the barman as he prepares the burguer, not creepy.*

    If I go to Logistics with a bulk of packages and bring some spontaneous conv with the counter guy as he labels the packages and places them in the convey that is not creepy.*

    If you go to a bar and walk to a random guy and start talking about the weat is very, VERY WHAT THE FUCK.

    *Asuming the conversation does not distract people from their task, obviousl

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    Initiating contact for random conversation doesn't have to be creepy. If the TV is on at the bar and someone else is watching, whatever is on the screen can be used to start a conversation. You look for a common thread or point
    of discussion and you get a response, or you don't. If you're in a place you've never been to before, asking a person next to you what is good on the menu or what is the place known for creates that opportunity.

    When I was younger I was shy and introverted. I'm still shy and introverted, however I had to learn as part of doing technical and customer support how to break out of my shell and talk to people. I notice there are occasions where getting the right answers back from a customer requires other questions. Making someone feel comfortable to confess they clicked on something without sounding judgemental is tricky. Admitting a screw up takes some courage. If you want something fixed, transparency towards why something is hosed up gets quicker results than playing 20 questions.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 14:45:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: MRO to Moondog on Tue Sep 20 2022 03:03 pm

    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:15 pm

    Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store feels odd. In department or specialty store, it is different because the conversation c be more specific. A good comparison is the bar, because you at least kno the person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed of how ma women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and are single.)

    they may SAY they are single, but there's probably a dude or two who would b

    That is why you do some research and casually ask around to find the truth. The old school gun shop owners are not known for conversation, however modern owners are like bartenders and get to know their customers, and their likes
    and buying habits.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 14:50:00
    Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Tue Sep 20 2022 03:04 pm

    Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:31 pm


    that shit is boring. you can't compare that to other shit. same with americ

    Yes, they have declined over the years in popularity and membership activity.
    When I was a child the clubs hosted baseball and softball leagues, socce and other sports. The Sons or Auxilliary would host dinners and dances, other family oriented or fund raising event open to the public. One town had four or five baseball diamonds on their property, and would host


    well the mooselodge does a lot of good things for communities with fundraisi

    I have several friends who are active int he Moose, however I'm not a member.
    My father joined because that was the club everyone he golfed with stopped
    at, and it was in between the golf course and home. They try to organize events, but they've been on the decline as previously stated.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 14:59:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Tue Sep 20 2022 03:06 pm

    Re: Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:55 pm



    those are alcoholics. not everyone is an alcoholic. i drink beer to sober u

    so you don't get out of the house to do any activities?

    I get out and do things. My point was some do nothing other than park on bar chair, and little else. I find it to be sad since there in more to l than reaching the bottom of a bottle.

    i dont reach the bottom of the bottle. i just go out to see weird shit and f

    I like hiking, cycling, camping, and I'm on the board of directors of a conservation club. We teach hunter's education, archery, and various lev of academic sport shooting and defensive shooting. I was recruited or as to serve on the board 12 years ago because we had ideas for improving hte club, and needed technical advisory to make sure it got done. I stick aro to remind newer board members as to why we try to maintain long term plan

    that stuff sounds like work.

    Work is sweating when you don't like it. Otherwise it is a hobby.

    Having a drink or two is fine. Stopping at the bar for a few drinks at 4pm then
    having someone drive you home at last call on a regular basis is a bad habit.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to esc on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 15:12:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: esc to MRO on Tue Sep 20 2022 10:38 pm

    i dont reach the bottom of the bottle. i just go out to see weird shit and funny shit and get out of the house. i have maybe one beer and i'm big so that beer does nothing to me.

    I stopped drinking alcohol in July of 2021 and realized that alcohol was bri tionship with alcohol, I'm not one of them, and I'm better off sober.

    Congratulations. Some never achieve that moment of clarity. I used to work with someone who was not who I imagined to be a drinker, and he said he had no
    urges to drink and could have alcohol sitting around the house and never
    have an urge to drink. Once he does take a drink, he'll drink until he
    passes out. We're all wired differently, and must learn our limits. That limit
    may be none at all.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Ogg on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 15:33:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Ogg to Moondog on Tue Sep 20 2022 11:56 pm

    Hello Moondog!

    ** On Monday 19.09.22 - 22:15, Moondog wrote to MRO:

    Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store
    feels odd. In a department or specialty store, it is
    different because the conversation can be more specific. A
    good comparison is the bar, because you at least know the
    person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed
    of how many women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and
    are single.)

    Talking in a grocery store to people feels odd but not in a gun
    shop? There HAS to be some extensive talking beyond personal
    ID to know if the women are single. :D

    My point is that ANY chance meeting anywhere can evolve into
    purposeful meetings somewhere else if you let it (like a
    hobbiest group that two people share interest in, or an evening
    college class).


    Even though this is the 21st century and times have changed, women shopping
    on their own in a gun shop is common, but still garners attention. Obviously they are either buying something for themselves, or they are buying something for a partner. If they frequent the shop or are avid
    shooters, there's less chance of dialog. If they're learning how to shoot or buying their first firearm, bringing up which caliber they prefer normally is followed by the mention of their partner having a hand cannon, and they are
    not comfortable with shooting their partner's hand me down gun. The reason
    why she is there by herself is if she brought him with, he would buy himself
    a new gun and give her the gun with uncontrollable recoil and a muzzle blast that jars teeth loose.

    If there is no mention of a partner, chances are she is there for herself,
    and there is no mention of a partner or significant other.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 15:46:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Arelor to Ogg on Wed Sep 21 2022 07:48 am

    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Tue Sep 20 2022 11:47 pm

    I knew a friend who consistently failed with establishing a GF.
    His modus operandi was to get a girl for a wife and have kids,
    and he said that he threw that question out there early in the
    dating game. And he wondered why he rarely got a 2nd date.


    Well, if you are trying to sell a product, you first have to convince the bu the product is awesome, and you only talk about the price once the buyer is purchase the product (unless the product's selling point is the price itself

    You sure as heck don't try to sell yourself by stating your price upfront, s if it is not a cheap price.

    Girls do this all the time, on the other hand, which is a blessing, because you to kick them off the list early.

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    Back in the days people placed ads in personal ads and dating sections of newspapers and dating services, some would mention they are looking for long term relationships and possible marriage to turn away others looking for
    random casual sex. Best advice is be honest, but avoid looking desperate and clingy.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to esc on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 21:08:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: esc to MRO on Wed Sep 21 2022 02:19 am

    to me alcohol doesn't even taste good. i just drink good whiskey to unwind and get to sleep sometimes.

    I sometimes take a cannabis gummy to go to sleep. Works really well. And doesn't have that same effect on me to take more.

    If i had an accident at work i'd have to take a drugtest, and even if it were legal in my state it still will be against the company rules. so i can't take that shit.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 21:14:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Wed Sep 21 2022 02:37 pm


    There is a difference between sparking up some friendly talk with somebody y supposed to be talking to, and trying to get a conversation started out of t Big difference.

    See, if I go order a burger from the local bar, and the bar is not very busy our, and I bring some subject up with the barman as he prepares the burguer, not creepy.*

    If I go to Logistics with a bulk of packages and bring some spontaneous conv with the counter guy as he labels the packages and places them in the convey that is not creepy.*



    I'm a big guy with a football player body. if i'm going up to a woman in a store she's going to think she's going to get raped. expecialy when my cart is full of shoves and ducttape and rope.

    people in my region don't talk to people they dont know.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 21:14:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Moondog to MRO on Wed Sep 21 2022 02:45 pm

    range (and are single.)

    they may SAY they are single, but there's probably a dude or two who would b

    That is why you do some research and casually ask around to find the truth. The old school gun shop owners are not known for conversation, however modern owners are like bartenders and get to know their customers, and their likes
    and buying habits.

    stalking
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 21:15:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to MRO on Wed Sep 21 2022 02:59 pm

    Work is sweating when you don't like it. Otherwise it is a hobby.

    Having a drink or two is fine. Stopping at the bar for a few drinks at 4pm then
    having someone drive you home at last call on a regular basis is a bad habit.

    yeah, i would say so. but i've never heard of that.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 22:59:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: bex to Moondog on Wed Sep 21 2022 09:32 am

    Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

    We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids" in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.

    I dunno if I'd say it is ironic. If I were single, I would avoid any bar/lounge whose clientele's average age was less than 40. Folks in their 20s and early 30s look like kids to me, more and moreso as I get older.

    I think that's more "natural" than "ironic".


    -+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3

    ... "42? 7 and a half million years and all you can come up with is 42?!"

    In terms of venues, I agree it's natural to pick a place with similar aged people. Some venues are more of a drinking establishment than a meet market.
    That is what I find ironic. I used to have a joke pickup line I would use with a girl I used to go to school with. To view people's reactions, I would approach her and say, "I may not be the best looking man in this bar, but
    right now I'm the only one talking to you." I would follow it up later, by saying, "my beer gets warm before I finish it. Can I keep it cold by placing it next to your heart? She's a good friend but we never got past being
    good friends.

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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to Moondog on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 23:56:00
    Congratulations. Some never achieve that moment of clarity. I used to work with someone who was not who I imagined to be a drinker, and he
    said he had no urges to drink and could have alcohol sitting around the house and never have an urge to drink. Once he does take a drink, he'll drink until he passes out. We're all wired differently, and must learn our limits. That limit
    may be none at all.

    Yeah, I just tend to find my way into dark places once I get near the firewater lol. Thanks for the kind words btw.

    One thing that's interesting is that I don't miss it, my wife drinks wine in front of me and it's a non-issue. The only thing that's weird now is going out with coworkers or something to a dinner or happy hour. But, I'm going to stick to my guns on this for my own sanity and well being.

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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to MRO on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 23:57:00
    If i had an accident at work i'd have to take a drugtest, and even if it were legal in my state it still will be against the company rules. so i can't take that shit.

    Gotcha. California just made it illegal for a company to fire you for recreational cannabis usage during off-hours. I think showing up high is still a fireable offense, though (like showing up drunk).

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to esc on Thursday, September 22, 2022 04:11:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: esc to MRO on Wed Sep 21 2022 11:57 pm

    If i had an accident at work i'd have to take a drugtest, and even if it were legal in my state it still will be against the company rules. so i can't take that shit.

    Gotcha. California just made it illegal for a company to fire you for recreational cannabis usage during off-hours. I think showing up high is still a fireable offense, though (like showing up drunk).

    yeah but how do they know if you are on it right then?
    other than the smell or red eyes.
    with alcohol they can test your blood alcohol level. i don't think
    they can do anything with thc right now.

    i worked pt at amazon and they dont even test for that shit. there were people doing weed before during and after work.
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  • From Wormwood@VERT/BITBRAIN to Arelor on Thursday, September 22, 2022 13:23:00
    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: Arelor to Ogg on Tue Sep 20 2022 01:16 pm

    Most people suck big time and deserve to die. I am sure as heck I am not going to actively try to meet somebody unless it is done in order to achieve some objective.

    Then you make an actual friend and he gets cancer and then COVID the same day, and the Welfare dudes decide to collectivelly murder the guy by inaction.

    i can't tell if you're just trying to be edgy or something but nihilism is the real cancer friend

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Thursday, September 22, 2022 09:16:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: MRO to Moondog on Wed Sep 21 2022 09:14 pm

    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Moondog to MRO on Wed Sep 21 2022 02:45 pm

    range (and are single.)

    they may SAY they are single, but there's probably a dude or two who would b

    That is why you do some research and casually ask around to find the trut The old school gun shop owners are not known for conversation, however modern owners are like bartenders and get to know their customers, and th likes
    and buying habits.

    stalking

    stalking sounds like work. We're discussing interest or attraction, not obsession.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to esc on Thursday, September 22, 2022 09:42:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: esc to Moondog on Wed Sep 21 2022 11:56 pm

    Congratulations. Some never achieve that moment of clarity. I used to work with someone who was not who I imagined to be a drinker, and he said he had no urges to drink and could have alcohol sitting around th house and never have an urge to drink. Once he does take a drink, he'l drink until he passes out. We're all wired differently, and must learn our limits. That limit
    may be none at all.

    Yeah, I just tend to find my way into dark places once I get near the firewa

    One thing that's interesting is that I don't miss it, my wife drinks wine in for my own sanity and well being.


    One thing I noticed when I stopped social drinking was I'm the same asshole, but I remember more details of the evening. At one gathering I went to was with a bunch of schedulers from work, and I had one shot because someone else paid for it. The next monday the chief scheduler was asking when all the new monitors and desktops were coming in for their department. She said I
    offered up three displays for each desk, and promised to order them new workst ations. She also said I wouldn't give the new cute scheduler a break that evening. I don't recall any of that. All I recall is having a shot, some conversation, then going home. But for a moment she had me second guessing myself, as if i blacked out. I heard laughing from the cubes next to us, and that gave it away. I got revenge on her with help from her husband. He was buying a keg-erator, a fridge that allows a tapped keg to be cooled at the hardware store. When they proceeded to the checkout,there were a few
    cashiers and the line of customers were long. Someone in line remarked to her that she must be the greatest wife because she is allowing her husband to get something for his mancave. I remarked back that he was buying it for her.
    She has the cool cave, and makes him sit in the little shed with the lawn mower.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to esc on Thursday, September 22, 2022 09:47:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: esc to MRO on Wed Sep 21 2022 11:57 pm

    If i had an accident at work i'd have to take a drugtest, and even if i were legal in my state it still will be against the company rules. so can't take that shit.

    Gotcha. California just made it illegal for a company to fire you for recrea

    I wonder how they can tell if a person is not under the effect of THC? The police tests years ago would detect use, but not potency or concentration in the system like the a breathalyzer does with blood alcohol content. When I workd in nuclear power generation, use of any pot-based product that tripped their drug test would result in immediate termination.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Moondog on Thursday, September 22, 2022 13:34:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Wed Sep 21 2022 03:46 pm

    Back in the days people placed ads in personal ads and dating sections of newspapers and dating services, some would mention they are looking for long term relationships and possible marriage to turn away others looking for random casual sex. Best advice is be honest, but avoid looking desperate and
    clingy.


    There is a paradox there.

    You cannot be honest if you are desperate, because then you will inevitably show you
    are desperate and lose. You either act sly and ensure nobody sees you bleeding (which
    is a good policy in life, actually) or you stop being desperate in the first place.

    I guess that for an actual desperate person, it is very hard to switch desperation
    off. Desperation in general is rooted in many factors that are not easy to change. It
    is easy to tell people not to be desperate, but if the reason they are desperate is
    they lack legs and arms and cannot get a job and they are having a bad time finding
    one, that is not getting an easy fix...

    Best advice is to become powerful enough so you can afford not to give a damn. ie. if
    you know how to bake your own apple pie, the need for having somebody besides you
    baking apple pie diminishes.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Thursday, September 22, 2022 13:38:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: MRO to Moondog on Wed Sep 21 2022 09:14 pm

    I'm a big guy with a football player body. if i'm going up to a woman in a store s

    This reminds me of one time in which I was driving at night near my villager and I
    found a nice woman playing with a horse, very enthusiastically. My first instinct was
    to stop the car right there, get off and buy a ticket in the dating roulette. Then I
    realized it was 3 am and I was wearing my full sociopathic gear (including a muslim-like beard and a work harness with a very big badass machete).

    I had to give the opportunity a pass and do some research in order to locate her
    elsewhere in a better moment. I am still wondering why that girl was playing with her
    horse so late at night.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Wormwood on Thursday, September 22, 2022 13:42:00
    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: Wormwood to Arelor on Thu Sep 22 2022 01:23 pm

    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: Arelor to Ogg on Tue Sep 20 2022 01:16 pm

    Most people suck big time and deserve to die. I am sure as heck I am not going to actively try to meet somebody unless it is done in order to achieve
    some objective.

    Then you make an actual friend and he gets cancer and then COVID the same day, and the Welfare dudes decide to collectivelly murder the guy by inaction.

    i can't tell if you're just trying to be edgy or something but nihilism is the real

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Thursday, September 22, 2022 15:31:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to esc on Thu Sep 22 2022 09:47 am

    I wonder how they can tell if a person is not under the effect of THC? The police tests years ago would detect use, but not potency or concentration in the system like the a breathalyzer does with blood alcohol content. When I workd in nuclear power generation, use of any pot-based product that tripped their drug test would result in immediate termination.


    apparently thc shows up in the urine, blood, hair for a various long periods.

    saliva tests detect thc for a few hours.
    this is the last site i found when looking this up

    https://disa.com/news/can-you-test-if-someone-is-high-at-the-moment

    there was this one dude at work who was trembling and acting high.
    i reported him when i saw a near miss and several people reported him beforehand. they checked his blood and urine. they got nothing.

    I have worked with people that got high all the time and he really set off my spidy sense.

    after this day he had a few other weird occurances, one of those where he was overheating and sweating when it was a cold winter morning. he was working on the ship dock where the doors had to be open all the time and there was minimal heating.
    he looked like he took the icebucket challenge from all the sweat on the head to chest area and he wasn't even at work for half an hour.
    they put icepacks on him and took him to the doctor. nothing to report back.

    later on they put this guy to work in another area and he started doing FLMA leave all the time. at my job that was abused a lot when people wanted to take off in the summer. they could get it for taking care of their mother or whatever. they made so much money, taking off a lot didn't put a dent in their paycheck.

    eventually they did a RIF [reduction in work force] event when the economy was bad, which means they talked a ton of people into a back office and gave them severance packages and told them they are done. he was one of those guys along with other people with bad attendance.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thursday, September 22, 2022 15:42:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Arelor to Moondog on Thu Sep 22 2022 01:34 pm

    There is a paradox there.

    You cannot be honest if you are desperate, because then you will inevitably show you are desperate and lose. You either act sly and ensure nobody sees you bleeding (which is a good policy in life, actually) or you stop being desperate in the first place.



    i think all courting involves some deception of some type.
    then you are together and act like yourself and hope they are okay with that. usually women try to change men but that never works.

    i'm at the point where i had real long relationshits so i'm not looking for anything. if i want to get laid, i can just meet some women/girls i know from the past.

    Best advice is to become powerful enough so you can afford not to give a damn. ie. if you know how to bake your own apple pie, the need for having somebody besides you baking apple pie diminishes.

    stop talking about your masturbation.
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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to MRO on Friday, September 23, 2022 02:29:00
    with alcohol they can test your blood alcohol level. i don't think
    they can do anything with thc right now.

    I don't think companies can compel you to take a blood alcohol test either :)

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to esc on Friday, September 23, 2022 05:15:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: esc to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 02:29 am

    with alcohol they can test your blood alcohol level. i don't think they can do anything with thc right now.

    I don't think companies can compel you to take a blood alcohol test either :)

    well they can ask you and if you say no you're fired.
    that's admitting guilt in their eyes.
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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 21:57:00
    Arelor said to bex: <=-

    Anyway, your reduction of human romantic relationships to "simple" financial transaction is so close to part of the incel world that difficult to see the difference.

    I suspect you are trying to lump me in with a group I have no
    affiliation with, so I will make it easy for you:

    I am not saying you're an incel, just that the things that you wrote were similar to what a number of incels say. Do what you will with that.

    People sucks and uses other people as assets.

    Women are people. Therefore they suck and use other people as assets.
    Just as men do. Big surprise.

    I feel so bad for whatever you've gone through in your life that has given
    you such a dour outlook on people and society. (((hug)))

    -- Bex <3
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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 22:15:00
    Dumas Walker said to Bex: <=-

    Anyway, you're reduction of human romantic relationships to a
    "simple"
    financial transaction is so close to part of the incel world that

    I did not read it that way. I have not ever met any women who are impressed by someone who cannot afford to go out anywhere and do things

    You are over-thinking this. What we want - what most anyone wants - is to
    spend time *together*. You're the one who thinks that means going out for dinner or movies or whatever else it is you are lumping into the phrase
    "go out anywhere and do things". A walk in the park is great, and doesn't
    cost anything! Sitting on a bench next to a lake and feeding ducks is free (except for the bread) and fun. And it can be quite entertaining because
    ducks are funny. (: Do you have a dog? Walking a dog together is a great
    way to get some one on one time together.

    And picnics! Browsing in a book store. Window shopping. Community
    concerts. Bird watching.

    AND those are all activities in public, which helps us to relax and not
    worry that we aren't necessarily safe. I cannot over-state how important
    that is.

    -- Bex <3
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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 22:46:00
    Arelor said to bex: <=-

    By the way, I don't deal with enough people to make for a substantial statistical pool, but there was an study somewhere that claimed 92 or
    94% of women prefered to be approached and that the rest was the
    minority that would act on their own.

    What study was that? Link to it? That sounds more like a poll than a
    study, and it sounds more like a poll from a magazine or on social media
    than any kind of legitimate poll. How could there be anything that could encompass all women? What do you consider a typical woman? You have to
    start breaking things down along demographic categories. I can guarantee
    you that the number of women between 18-24 and 50-54 will have VASTLY
    different answers about who should make initial contact.

    Age ranges are just one category though. In the 50-54 age range, women who
    live in an urban area (like me) will have a different view than
    women in a rural area. For urbanites, those that have a job and children
    will have a different view than those who are career-focused and those who aren't working.

    The ones that advance themselves seem to be the "Live Dangerously and
    Die Young" variety, *IN MY EXPERIENCE.*

    I added even more emphasis to your most important sentence there, my
    friend. You seem to both be admitting that you are only discussing what
    you've experienced while still trying to extrapolate how things work for
    every other person in the world from your experiences. Are you familiar
    with the cave allegory?

    -- Bex <3

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Thursday, September 22, 2022 15:21:00
    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    First off, lemme say that my experiences and reactions are my own, and
    other women might have very different ones. I mentioned in a previous post
    that there's no such thing as a "typical woman" after all. (:

    BTW, starting a conversation is not making a move. Far from it.

    So.... to make a move, you are just going to come up to someone and say something like "Hi, you don't know me, but I wanted to see if you wanted to
    go on a date with me"? Because I've gotta tell you, that would generate an immediate "no thanks". Women want to spend some time talking, getting to
    know a person so they can see if there's shared interest there.

    Getting close to a guy and telling him that you like that book he is reading is an attempt at getting him to make a move. When I want a girl

    No, it's a way of saying "hi" and learning a little about the person. It's making a human connection. And it's a way to see if there's any hint of interest back my way.

    phoning the police because you want them to shoot a drug dealer is to shooting a drug dealer down.

    Your metaphor is so out there that I won't even acknowledge it, but this
    part made me want to ask: Isn't a person supposed to call the police and
    say "I think that person is a drug dealer, because they are always doing <insert behavior>" instead of thinking "I think that person is a drug
    dealer" and murdering them?

    You made me giggle, thank you!

    usually the dudes. When a dude wants something with a girl, and the
    girl is not interested, the guy rarely gets a straight answer. It is always an "I am busy" or "Maybe next week" or some other cover-up.

    I think there are two main reasons for this:

    1) An innate feeling of not wanting to hurt someone's feelings.
    2) The possibility of being verbally or physically assaulted after
    rejecting someone. To see how common people lashing out after being
    rejected is, spend a few minutes in r/niceguys, r/creepyPMs, etc


    -+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Friday, September 23, 2022 09:48:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Arelor to Moondog on Thu Sep 22 2022 01:34 pm

    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Wed Sep 21 2022 03:46 pm

    Back in the days people placed ads in personal ads and dating sections of newspapers and dating services, some would mention they are looking for l term relationships and possible marriage to turn away others looking for random casual sex. Best advice is be honest, but avoid looking desperate clingy.


    There is a paradox there.

    You cannot be honest if you are desperate, because then you will inevitably are desperate and lose. You either act sly and ensure nobody sees you bleedi is a good policy in life, actually) or you stop being desperate in the first

    I guess that for an actual desperate person, it is very hard to switch despe off. Desperation in general is rooted in many factors that are not easy to c is easy to tell people not to be desperate, but if the reason they are despe they lack legs and arms and cannot get a job and they are having a bad time one, that is not getting an easy fix...

    Best advice is to become powerful enough so you can afford not to give a dam you know how to bake your own apple pie, the need for having somebody beside baking apple pie diminishes.

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    The issue is not being desparate. It's looking or acting in a way that makes you appear desparate. Regardless of personal condition, you won't attract a m ate if you give them the vibe you are settling for whoever comes along.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Friday, September 23, 2022 10:00:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: MRO to Arelor on Thu Sep 22 2022 03:42 pm

    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Arelor to Moondog on Thu Sep 22 2022 01:34 pm

    There is a paradox there.

    You cannot be honest if you are desperate, because then you will inevitab show you are desperate and lose. You either act sly and ensure nobody see you bleeding (which is a good policy in life, actually) or you stop being desperate in the first place.



    i think all courting involves some deception of some type.
    then you are together and act like yourself and hope they are okay with that usually women try to change men but that never works.

    i'm at the point where i had real long relationshits so i'm not looking for

    Best advice is to become powerful enough so you can afford not to give a damn. ie. if you know how to bake your own apple pie, the need for having somebody besides you baking apple pie diminishes.

    stop talking about your masturbation.

    I disagree about deception. If someone is lying about simple things, what other false pretenses am I getting involved with?

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to esc on Friday, September 23, 2022 10:12:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: esc to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 02:29 am

    with alcohol they can test your blood alcohol level. i don't think they can do anything with thc right now.

    I don't think companies can compel you to take a blood alcohol test either :

    For insurance reasons, if there is a work accident, a breathalyzer is warranted to prove to the underwriter that alocohol was not a factor. BAC can be calculated from it. I think the accused can request a blood draw, but chances
    are if there's any alcohol is their system, they can extrapolate rate of absorption to the point of when they were legally impaired even closer.

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  • From Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to esc on Friday, September 23, 2022 13:04:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: esc to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 02:29:00

    with alcohol they can test your blood alcohol level. i don't think
    they can do anything with thc right now.
    I don't think companies can compel you to take a blood alcohol test either :)

    they can, but it depends on your job. I know with my job (driving) if there's either a random drug test or a drug test
    cus i was involved in an accident, they also do a BAC test.

    I can also pop a test if i take CDB gummies etc. so yes they can detect some parts incl THC, but the latter is not really
    that accurate at the moment.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Friday, September 23, 2022 17:23:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Moondog to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 10:00 am

    I disagree about deception. If someone is lying about simple things, what other false pretenses am I getting involved with?

    everyone puts their best self forward while dating.
    everyone tries to be funnier and more enjoyable to be around when dating.

    if you say you don't you are lying.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Friday, September 23, 2022 17:25:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to esc on Fri Sep 23 2022 10:12 am

    are if there's any alcohol is their system, they can extrapolate rate of absorption to the point of when they were legally impaired even closer.

    no they can't do that part. they can only work with what they have.
    people's bodies work different.

    they can't lie and say your blood alcohol is THIS when it's really THAT.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BEX on Friday, September 23, 2022 16:52:00
    You are over-thinking this. What we want - what most anyone wants - is to spend time *together*. You're the one who thinks that means going out for dinner or movies or whatever else it is you are lumping into the phrase
    "go out anywhere and do things". A walk in the park is great, and doesn't cost anything! Sitting on a bench next to a lake and feeding ducks is free (except for the bread) and fun. And it can be quite entertaining because ducks are funny. (: Do you have a dog? Walking a dog together is a great
    way to get some one on one time together.

    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from experience. In the early days especially, doing things that don't cost money won't get you too far. Even women friends I have and am not dating want to go out to eat or
    to a movie, etc... they don't want to just hang out, in public or otherwise.

    The reality might be quite different in a relationship that has been going
    on a long time, especially one that has been made legal and is (supposedly) more difficult to disolve.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Friday, September 23, 2022 16:30:00
    I had to give the opportunity a pass and do some research in order to locate h
    elsewhere in a better moment. I am still wondering why that girl was playing w
    h her
    horse so late at night.

    If I saw that around here at 3am, I would think she was either on drugs or
    has a mental problem (bi-polar or borderline).


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Friday, September 23, 2022 20:05:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Fri Sep 23 2022 04:30 pm

    I had to give the opportunity a pass and do some research in order to locate h
    elsewhere in a better moment. I am still wondering why that girl was playing w
    h her
    horse so late at night.

    If I saw that around here at 3am, I would think she was either on drugs or has a mental problem (bi-polar or borderline).


    people say that when i'm cleaning out my basement at 3am or walking around barefoot outside with a hammer.

    it could be i just am used to being up nights and i'm cleaning my basement or i'm trying to hunt a prowler.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Friday, September 23, 2022 23:54:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Fri Sep 23 2022 05:25 pm

    Re: Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to esc on Fri Sep 23 2022 10:12 am

    are if there's any alcohol is their system, they can extrapolate rate of absorption to the point of when they were legally impaired even closer.

    no they can't do that part. they can only work with what they have.
    people's bodies work different.

    they can't lie and say your blood alcohol is THIS when it's really THAT.

    The nuclear power generation industry has a formula based on an average person 's height and weight. If you're larger than average, that maay help you a little. They might go for a blood draw and factor in size based on charts
    for people of different sizes. They could have you blow the breathalzer,
    wait an hour, then blow again, and build a scale based on the rate your body broke it down. The NRC nad industry take it pretty seriously.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Saturday, September 24, 2022 02:24:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 11:54 pm


    they can't lie and say your blood alcohol is THIS when it's really THAT.

    The nuclear power generation industry has a formula based on an average person 's height and weight. If you're larger than average, that maay help you a little. They might go for a blood draw and factor in size based on charts
    for people of different sizes. They could have you blow the breathalzer, wait an hour, then blow again, and build a scale based on the rate your body broke it down. The NRC nad industry take it pretty seriously.


    if they find ANY alcohol they should fire the person.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Saturday, September 24, 2022 10:38:00
    If I saw that around here at 3am, I would think she was either on drugs or has a mental problem (bi-polar or borderline).


    people say that when i'm cleaning out my basement at 3am or walking around barefoot outside with a hammer.

    it could be i just am used to being up nights and i'm cleaning my basement or m trying to hunt a prowler.

    That could be. I don't think you'd be outside playing around at 3am with a horse, though. :)


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Saturday, September 24, 2022 11:10:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to BEX on Fri Sep 23 2022 04:52 pm

    You are over-thinking this. What we want - what most anyone wants - is to spend time *together*. You're the one who thinks that means going out for dinner or movies or whatever else it is you are lumping into the phrase "go out anywhere and do things". A walk in the park is great, and doesn't cost anything! Sitting on a bench next to a lake and feeding ducks is free (except for the bread) and fun. And it can be quite entertaining because ducks are funny. (: Do you have a dog? Walking a dog together is a great way to get some one on one time together.

    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from experience. In the early days especially, doing things that don't cost money won't get you too far. Even women friends I have and am not dating want to go out to eat or to a movie, etc... they don't want to just hang out, in public or otherwise.

    The reality might be quite different in a relationship that has been going on a long time, especially one that has been made legal and is (supposedly) more difficult to disolve.


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    Everyone is different, and people who like the outdoors and do not need to spend money to have fun exist. You can always ask. The worst thing they can say is no. Nearly every town or cuty I've been to has a park or multiple parks, ponds, walking trails, or nature preserves outside of town. One of my favorite places is a nature preserve with trails through a wetland. They
    have boardwalks and elevated platforms for bird watching, photography, or just
    chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlife preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking for caches.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Saturday, September 24, 2022 11:27:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sat Sep 24 2022 02:24 am

    Re: Re: Incels
    By: Moondog to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 11:54 pm


    they can't lie and say your blood alcohol is THIS when it's really THA

    The nuclear power generation industry has a formula based on an average person 's height and weight. If you're larger than average, that maay he you a little. They might go for a blood draw and factor in size based on charts
    for people of different sizes. They could have you blow the breathalzer, wait an hour, then blow again, and build a scale based on the rate your b broke it down. The NRC nad industry take it pretty seriously.


    if they find ANY alcohol they should fire the person.

    They random drug test, and sometimes you can "win the lottery" and get picked for testing as soon as you clock in. If you have a 7am shift start and drank "casually aka not f'd up" until 2am the night before, a trace amount may show in your system, but you are far from being intoxicated or impaired on the jobsite. If you're 7.5 hours into a shift and display any BAC, that's a definite sign you consumed alcohol whether by drink or in food. Going by
    the cutoff time, I'm assuming acohol from a beer will pass through an
    average sized person within 5 hours.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, September 24, 2022 17:30:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Sep 24 2022 10:38 am


    it could be i just am used to being up nights and i'm cleaning my basement or m trying to hunt a prowler.

    That could be. I don't think you'd be outside playing around at 3am with a horse, though. :)

    a few months back there was a guy i caught on my cameras walking around my back yard looking for a way into the house or shit to steal in the yard. it was raining, too. he was going through every yard and walking around every house in the neighborhood.

    I had a feeling so i went outside with my foundry hammer [one where i could split someone's head in half like a watermelon] and i see him walking around my neighbor's house. i say to him 'THERE YOU ARE". and he ducks behind some shit and hides.

    i drove around to see where he went but couldnt see him. I called the police and they couldn't find him. Too bad you can't just shoot people on sight. eventually it will become that way when it's bad enough.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Sunday, September 25, 2022 06:38:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Wed Sep 21 2022 10:46 pm

    By the way, I don't deal with enough people to make for a substantial statistical pool, but there was an study somewhere that claimed 92 or 94% of women prefered to be approached and that the rest was the minority that would act on their own.

    What study was that? Link to it? That sounds more like a poll than a
    study, and it sounds more like a poll from a magazine or on social media

    I don't think it is available online. There was a presentation of it at the Western Psychological Associations meeting in 2011 I think.

    For something more informal, you have this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-how-and-why-sex-differences/201104/ why-dont-women-ask-men-out-first-dates



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Sunday, September 25, 2022 06:41:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Wed Sep 21 2022 10:46 pm

    I added even more emphasis to your most important sentence there, my
    friend. You seem to both be admitting that you are only discussing what you've experienced while still trying to extrapolate how things work for every other person in the world from your experiences. Are you familiar
    with the cave allegory?

    Actually it is the other way around. I hear what other people says, read what they write, and then compare it with my own experience and see it adds up.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Sunday, September 25, 2022 06:57:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Thu Sep 22 2022 03:21 pm

    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    First off, lemme say that my experiences and reactions are my own, and
    other women might have very different ones. I mentioned in a previous post that there's no such thing as a "typical woman" after all. (:

    BTW, starting a conversation is not making a move. Far from it.

    So.... to make a move, you are just going to come up to someone and say something like "Hi, you don't know me, but I wanted to see if you wanted to go on a date with me"? Because I've gotta tell you, that would generate an immediate "no thanks". Women want to spend some time talking, getting to know a person so they can see if there's shared interest there.

    Getting close to a guy and telling him that you like that book he is reading is an attempt at getting him to make a move. When I want a girl

    No, it's a way of saying "hi" and learning a little about the person. It's making a human connection. And it's a way to see if there's any hint of interest back my way.

    phoning the police because you want them to shoot a drug dealer is to shooting a drug dealer down.

    Your metaphor is so out there that I won't even acknowledge it, but this part made me want to ask: Isn't a person supposed to call the police and
    say "I think that person is a drug dealer, because they are always doing <insert behavior>" instead of thinking "I think that person is a drug dealer" and murdering them?

    You made me giggle, thank you!

    usually the dudes. When a dude wants something with a girl, and the girl is not interested, the guy rarely gets a straight answer. It is always an "I am busy" or "Maybe next week" or some other cover-up.

    I think there are two main reasons for this:

    1) An innate feeling of not wanting to hurt someone's feelings.
    2) The possibility of being verbally or physically assaulted after
    rejecting someone. To see how common people lashing out after being
    rejected is, spend a few minutes in r/niceguys, r/creepyPMs, etc


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    I bet some people can pop up out of the blue in front of a girl and ask her out right away, and get a result. I don't think it is common either. That is absolutely not what I am talking about. For the record: the experiment has been done informally with both men to women and women to men, the experiments are recorded, and results are hillarious.

    No, what I am talking about is what the Psychology today article I have just mentioned describes as Risky Initiatives. Women's way of grabbing a man is trying to give cues that they are available, but they don't take any risk or communicate their intentions outright. They act like one of my mares: she is afraid her barn companion will punish her if she asks me for pats, so what she does instead is keeping her distance and following me from afar, with the hope that I will notice she is there and may want to walk up to her and pet her. (Meanwhile, when the other ones wants pats, she outright walks towards me and kisses my face all over).

    BTW I both oppose the war on drugs and think that begging the administration to do something is just a way of getting something done, rejecting the responsibility that comes from the action. Just like trying to show you are available for dating without making an explicit move towards that goal: if it does not work out, you can avoid any backslash because you were not exposed to it to begin with.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Moondog on Sunday, September 25, 2022 07:02:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Moondog to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 10:00 am

    I disagree about deception. If someone is lying about simple things, what other false pretenses am I getting involved with?

    The issue here is that, in the end of the day, you are just selling a product (ie. You and hat you can do for the other person) and once you go into that territory, you need to hone your marketing skills.

    A big bunch of dating advice out there sounds like marketing classes to me, really. You need to hype the product so it looks better than it is. It can be done without lying, but if everybody else has marketing more aggressive than your's, you are going to have bad trouble selling your product.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Sunday, September 25, 2022 07:07:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Fri Sep 23 2022 04:30 pm

    I had to give the opportunity a pass and do some research in order to loca elsewhere in a better moment. I am still wondering why that girl was playi h her
    horse so late at night.

    If I saw that around here at 3am, I would think she was either on drugs or has a mental problem (bi-polar or borderline).



    Well, if I am having trouble sleeping or if I arrive late home, I usually check on the horses. Their sleep cycle is not like human's, so if you show up late they are likely to want some pats and play. I am certainly not judgemental there.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Sunday, September 25, 2022 07:12:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sat Sep 24 2022 02:24 am

    The nuclear power generation industry has a formula based on an average person 's height and weight. If you're larger than average, that maay he you a little. They might go for a blood draw and factor in size based on charts
    for people of different sizes. They could have you blow the breathalzer, wait an hour, then blow again, and build a scale based on the rate your b broke it down. The NRC nad industry take it pretty seriously.


    if they find ANY alcohol they should fire the person.

    It... depends.

    A friend of mine was having a prescription mouth flush every morning before work. ONe day, he was stopped at a traffic control and they made him blow into the alcoholimeter. His readings were "Take him to Police Station" high. WHen they did a blood test, they found 0.0 alcohol. Apparently, the mouth flush has a high alcohol content and messed up the readings \o/

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sunday, September 25, 2022 10:11:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Arelor to Moondog on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:02 am

    product (ie. You and hat you can do for the other person) and once you go into that territory, you need to hone your marketing skills.

    A big bunch of dating advice out there sounds like marketing classes to me, really. You need to hype the product so it looks better than it is. It can be done without lying, but if everybody else has marketing more aggressive than your's, you are going to have bad trouble selling your product.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sunday, September 25, 2022 10:12:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:12 am

    A friend of mine was having a prescription mouth flush every morning before work. ONe day, he was stopped at a traffic control and they made him blow into the alcoholimeter. His readings were "Take him to Police Station" high. WHen they did a blood test, they found 0.0 alcohol. Apparently, the mouth flush has a high alcohol content and messed up the readings \o/


    that mouth wash shouldnt set anything off unless he is using it RIGHT before
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Sunday, September 25, 2022 09:23:00
    Everyone is different, and people who like the outdoors and do not need to spend money to have fun exist. You can always ask. The worst thing they can say is no. Nearly every town or cuty I've been to has a park or multiple parks, ponds, walking trails, or nature preserves outside of town. One of my favorite places is a nature preserve with trails through a wetland. They have boardwalks and elevated platforms for bird watching, photography, or just
    chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlife preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking for caches.

    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there,
    which was my point.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Sunday, September 25, 2022 09:25:00
    If I saw that around here at 3am, I would think she was either on drugs or has a mental problem (bi-polar or borderline).

    Well, if I am having trouble sleeping or if I arrive late home, I usually chec
    on the horses. Their sleep cycle is not like human's, so if you show up late they are likely to want some pats and play. I am certainly not judgemental there.

    I was going more with what kind of people are around this area and not
    being judgemental of people out late as a whole. If I had animals, I would probably check on them, too, under such circumstances.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Sunday, September 25, 2022 11:13:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Arelor to Moondog on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:02 am

    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Moondog to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 10:00 am

    I disagree about deception. If someone is lying about simple things, wha other false pretenses am I getting involved with?

    The issue here is that, in the end of the day, you are just selling a produc (ie. You and hat you can do for the other person) and once you go into that territory, you need to hone your marketing skills.

    A big bunch of dating advice out there sounds like marketing classes to me, really. You need to hype the product so it looks better than it is. It can b done without lying, but if everybody else has marketing more aggressive than your's, you are going to have bad trouble selling your product.


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    That marketing angle is one of the reasons I do not use or trust dating services. I don't trust profile pictures to be up to date. My brother was using some site and since he's in his mid-40's he's getting some gray hair on his blond head and his facial hair is also turning. he was getting remarks back about looking like an old man, but these were from "girls" who were in their early or mid 20's. he got self conscious about it and tried the Just
    For Men hair dye for his beard and mustache, and went too dark. It looked ridiculous and friends and acquaintances spoke their mind and told him he
    looks good for being someone in the 40's already. i think he's been
    catfished a few times and was basing a date on a profile pic, then found the pic was from 10-15 years earlier before she became inactive or premature
    aging kicked in. Clever marketing does little if the product does not match the claims.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Sunday, September 25, 2022 11:23:00
    Re: Re: Incels
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:12 am

    Re: Re: Incels
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sat Sep 24 2022 02:24 am

    The nuclear power generation industry has a formula based on an averag person 's height and weight. If you're larger than average, that maay you a little. They might go for a blood draw and factor in size based charts
    for people of different sizes. They could have you blow the breathalz wait an hour, then blow again, and build a scale based on the rate you broke it down. The NRC nad industry take it pretty seriously.


    if they find ANY alcohol they should fire the person.

    It... depends.

    A friend of mine was having a prescription mouth flush every morning before work. ONe day, he was stopped at a traffic control and they made him blow in the alcoholimeter. His readings were "Take him to Police Station" high. WHen they did a blood test, they found 0.0 alcohol. Apparently, the mouth flush h a high alcohol content and messed up the readings \o/

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    In the test procedures I've been involved with, the subject is asked if they had any mouthwash, drinks or food 15-20 minutes prior to the breathalyzer test. if the answer is yes, then they will sit in the ready room for
    another 15-20 minutes, and maybe allowed a cup of water if they feel dehydrated. I can see how a police officer might not have that much time to sit around and wait for surface applied alcohol to evaporate.


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Nightfox on Friday, September 23, 2022 15:01:00
    Nightfox wrote to bex <=-

    less horrible than they are. Incels are a sad, pathetic, extremely frightening group of mysoginists whose anger is almost always close to the boiling point and who forever see women as "females" who are both less than human an unworthy of being anything but walking vaginas.

    It reminds me of what I've read of the Men Going Their Own Way movement and/or the Red Pill movement.

    :O There are more groups like that? *shudder*


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Moondog on Friday, September 23, 2022 16:10:00
    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    would follow it up later, by saying, "my beer gets warm before I finish it. Can I keep it cold by placing it next to your heart? She's a good friend but we never got past being good friends.

    Sounds wonderful, good friends are so important! <3



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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Sunday, September 25, 2022 15:59:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: MRO to Arelor on Sun Sep 25 2022 10:11 am

    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Arelor to Moondog on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:02 am

    product (ie. You and hat you can do for the other person) and once you go into that territory, you need to hone your marketing skills.

    A big bunch of dating advice out there sounds like marketing classes to m really. You need to hype the product so it looks better than it is. It ca be done without lying, but if everybody else has marketing more aggressiv than your's, you are going to have bad trouble selling your product.



    well dont think of it as lying. think of it as putting your best foot forwar

    If reality doesn't come close to the perception as pitched, that is not
    putting your best foot forward. Instead of overlooking it and treating
    that as part of the game, it may lead to more questions regarding what is
    the other person being dishonest about.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sunday, September 25, 2022 16:11:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Sun Sep 25 2022 09:23 am

    Everyone is different, and people who like the outdoors and do not need to spend money to have fun exist. You can always ask. The worst thing they say is no. Nearly every town or cuty I've been to has a park or multiple parks, ponds, walking trails, or nature preserves outside of town. One of favorite places is a nature preserve with trails through a wetland. They have boardwalks and elevated platforms for bird watching, photography, or
    chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlife preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking for caches.

    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.


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    Everything in life is somewhere else. Does your date live in walking
    distance from you? Do you both have bicycles? Skates? A home cooked dinner sounds cool, but that means going to a store and spending money on food.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sunday, September 25, 2022 19:48:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Sun Sep 25 2022 09:23 am

    chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlife preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking for caches.

    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.

    remember when there was a serial killer out there in the parks? i wonder what happened with that.
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    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Sep 25 2022 11:13 am

    That marketing angle is one of the reasons I do not use or trust dating services. I don't trust profile pictures to be up to date. My brother was

    this one woman i used to talk to was using those sites. the dude that showed up was about 200lbs heavier than the photo. she also had a guy send her a video of him pissing.

    also i am a germfreak and i have some morals, but I like to check out those 'dating' sites where you really pay for dates. like whatsyourprice and that ashley madison one. you will find the SAME women on those escort sites as the dating sites. i look on there to see if there's anybody i know. i've spotted 3 coworkers on those sites so far.


    were in their early or mid 20's. he got self conscious about it and tried the Just
    For Men hair dye for his beard and mustache, and went too dark. It looked ridiculous and friends and acquaintances spoke their mind and told him he

    that just for men shit is total shit. it oxydizes and doesn't keep for long. also you are supposed to go one shade lighter.

    for my beard which is now totally white because of women, i use that root touchup stuff. https://i.imgur.com/C5N0Wx4.png
    you wash your face with dishsoap and dry it. then put it the dye on for just 5 mins and then wipe it off and then put soap on your face and use a sponge with a scrub side and scrub the whole area. then it gets a little darKer in a few mins .

    for my hair that has white on the temples now, i use the just for men
    shampoo. it also oxydizes and the color changes in the tube but it still works a little. https://i.imgur.com/7MqRF6V.png

    that is very subtle and works real well. I probably don't need to do this stuff, but i get bored and try it out. i don't like having random white hairs.

    you have to be careful with this dying your head hair shit. your hair will go red or orange after some time. that's unless you want to go black like dracula. then the dye will have a lot of blues in it and it wont go orange.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Sunday, September 25, 2022 20:03:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Moondog to MRO on Sun Sep 25 2022 03:59 pm


    well dont think of it as lying. think of it as putting your best foot forwar

    If reality doesn't come close to the perception as pitched, that is not putting your best foot forward. Instead of overlooking it and treating
    that as part of the game, it may lead to more questions regarding what is

    yeah and monkeys might fly out of my butt. whats your point.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Monday, September 26, 2022 08:08:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:48 pm

    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Sun Sep 25 2022 09:23 am

    chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlif preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking f caches.

    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.

    remember when there was a serial killer out there in the parks? i wonder wha

    Refuse to be a victim. Places known for criminal behavior should be avoided.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Monday, September 26, 2022 08:22:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:58 pm

    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Sep 25 2022 11:13 am

    That marketing angle is one of the reasons I do not use or trust dating services. I don't trust profile pictures to be up to date. My brother w

    this one woman i used to talk to was using those sites. the dude that showe

    also i am a germfreak and i have some morals, but I like to check out those on there to see if there's anybody i know. i've spotted 3 coworkers on thos


    were in their early or mid 20's. he got self conscious about it and trie the Just
    For Men hair dye for his beard and mustache, and went too dark. It looke ridiculous and friends and acquaintances spoke their mind and told him he

    that just for men shit is total shit. it oxydizes and doesn't keep for long also you are supposed to go one shade lighter.

    for my beard which is now totally white because of women, i use that root to you wash your face with dishsoap and dry it. then put it the dye on for jus

    for my hair that has white on the temples now, i use the just for men shampoo. it also oxydizes and the color changes in the tube but it still wo

    that is very subtle and works real well. I probably don't need to do this

    you have to be careful with this dying your head hair shit. your hair will

    lol. The librarian that we had in middle school occasionally messed up and
    had purple hair. This was way before it was a desired color.

    As for my own hair, I had dark hair when I was younger, then I slowly began getting a white streak in my 30's. By my mid 40's my hair turned dark gray. Some call it salt and pepper because individual hairs fall into a specturm between grayish black to platinum white.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Saturday, September 24, 2022 11:16:00
    Ogg wrote to Moondog <=-

    Talking in a grocery store to people feels odd but not in a gun
    shop? There HAS to be some extensive talking beyond personal
    ID to know if the women are single. :D

    There was a gun shop in San Francisco, and I used to love browsing there. Never owned one myself. The clientele, however, were *incredibly* polite.



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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Monday, September 26, 2022 08:50:00
    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 25 2022 08:03 pm

    Re: a very task oriented pers
    By: Moondog to MRO on Sun Sep 25 2022 03:59 pm


    well dont think of it as lying. think of it as putting your best foot forwar

    If reality doesn't come close to the perception as pitched, that is not putting your best foot forward. Instead of overlooking it and treating that as part of the game, it may lead to more questions regarding what is

    yeah and monkeys might fly out of my butt. whats your point.

    It's pretty clear, I think. There's pitching yourself in a positive light
    and accentuating the positives, then there's outright lying and deception.
    if your date shows up and looks way different than their profile picture, why didn't they use a modern, well made picture instead of one where they were younger or looked differently? Makes no sense to lie about something that w ill soon be discovered.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Monday, September 26, 2022 15:47:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 26 2022 08:08 am

    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:48 pm

    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Sun Sep 25 2022 09:23 am

    chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlif preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking f caches.

    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.

    remember when there was a serial killer out there in the parks? i wonder wha

    Refuse to be a victim. Places known for criminal behavior should be avoided.

    https://nypost.com/2020/07/04/why-hundreds-of-people-vanish-into-the-american-wilderness/

    i just stay home
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Monday, September 26, 2022 07:22:00
    Arelor wrote to Moondog <=-

    A big bunch of dating advice out there sounds like marketing classes to me, really. You need to hype the product so it looks better than it is.
    It can be done without lying, but if everybody else has marketing more aggressive than your's, you are going to have bad trouble selling your product.

    Marketing (at least with regards to personal branding) is all about discovering a problem that the customer has, finding and fixing a customer's problem for a price, and picking a niche to make you the biggest player in
    the market - at least in the beginning.

    If your target niche is "Personal Companionship for Female Babylon 5 Cosplayers", good luck.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Monday, September 26, 2022 07:24:00
    Arelor wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    Well, if I am having trouble sleeping or if I arrive late home, I
    usually check on the horses. Their sleep cycle is not like human's, so
    if you show up late they are likely to want some pats and play. I am certainly not judgemental there.

    Dogs have a pretty solid sleep cycle that they'll interrupt when I get home. It's funny when one of them, a little terrier/chihuahua mix greets me at the door with bed head.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to bex on Monday, September 26, 2022 07:32:00
    bex wrote to Nightfox <=-

    In my late 20s, I was lucky enough to go to Amsterdam for six weeks for work. It was one of the best adventures of my life.

    I loved work travel, pre-2001. I worked for a European company based out of London, and we'd have IT all-hands meetings 4 times a year, rotating between my office in San Francisco, London, Paris and Hamburg.




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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Monday, September 26, 2022 16:43:00
    Everything in life is somewhere else. Does your date live in walking distance from you? Do you both have bicycles? Skates? A home cooked dinner sounds cool, but that means going to a store and spending money on food.

    That was my point. It was someone else's point that things are free that really are not.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Monday, September 26, 2022 16:45:00
    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.

    remember when there was a serial killer out there in the parks? i wonder what ppened with that.

    Which parks was that? The local ones all have homeless people, if you
    arrive at the wrong times (including some daylight hours).


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Monday, September 26, 2022 20:44:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Sep 26 2022 04:45 pm

    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.

    remember when there was a serial killer out there in the parks? i wonder what ppened with that.

    Which parks was that? The local ones all have homeless people, if you arrive at the wrong times (including some daylight hours).


    i posted a link. i think it's the natural forests.
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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Dumas Walker on Monday, September 26, 2022 08:18:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to BEX <=-

    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free
    teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    money won't get you too far. Even women friends I have and am not
    dating want to go out to eat or to a movie, etc... they don't want to
    just hang out, in public or otherwise.

    My girlfriends say that your women friends are full of bull. The important thing is meeting somewhere in public and spending time together.

    But it's also up to choosing what makes you most comfortable. That's done really well for you so far, right? ;) j/k


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Monday, September 26, 2022 08:30:00
    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    What study was that? Link to it? That sounds more like a poll than a
    study, and it sounds more like a poll from a magazine or on social media

    I don't think it is available online. There was a presentation of it at the Western Psychological Associations meeting in 2011 I think.

    For something more informal, you have this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-how-and-why-sex-differences/ 201104/
    why-dont-women-ask-men-out-first-dates

    Thanks! That was an interesting read. The one question I would have about
    it would be their sample - college-aged women they found on campus - but
    the points that Mills made are thought provoking.


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Monday, September 26, 2022 08:35:00
    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    take any risk or communicate their intentions outright. They act like
    one of my mares: she is afraid her barn companion will punish her if
    she asks me for pats, so what she does instead is keeping her distance

    :O

    You didn't really just write that, did you? Comparing - in any way, metaphorically, philosophically, trolling - women to mares?

    Sir, I will *not* continue a conversation after that statement.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 12:23:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Mon Sep 26 2022 08:35 am

    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    take any risk or communicate their intentions outright. They act like one of my mares: she is afraid her barn companion will punish her if she asks me for pats, so what she does instead is keeping her distance

    :O

    You didn't really just write that, did you? Comparing - in any way, metaphorically, philosophically, trolling - women to mares?

    Sir, I will *not* continue a conversation after that statement.


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    If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to
    hang around. Not to mention safer.


    Not to mention more cute and cuddly.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 09:50:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Mon Sep 26 2022 08:44 pm

    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Sep 26 2022 04:45 pm

    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.

    remember when there was a serial killer out there in the parks? i wonde what ppened with that.

    Which parks was that? The local ones all have homeless people, if you arrive at the wrong times (including some daylight hours).


    i posted a link. i think it's the natural forests.

    Appalachan Trail has been know for human predator types. There are also several emotionally vulnerable types that lost a friend or family member, and hope to find solace on the trail.

    A former co-worker told me of this guest speaker they had at the hiking group she belonged to. The guest speaker had a disease that took partial use of
    her legs, and she volunteered to work with a company that was testing an exoskeleton that would help people who couldn't walk on their own. She
    walked 700 miles of the trail, but there were spots where the frame used more power. She would either have to crawl or get to spot with good sunlight to charge batteries enough to get to a town or weather shelter to charge batteries.

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 12:18:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to bex <=-

    I loved work travel, pre-2001. I worked for a European company based
    out of London, and we'd have IT all-hands meetings 4 times a year, rotating between my office in San Francisco, London, Paris and Hamburg.

    I can't even begin to tell you how jealous I am! I've never been to Paris
    nor Hamburg, and only been to Heathrow so I don't think that counts. (:

    What are your favorite memories of that trip?


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to esc on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 12:18:00
    esc wrote to bex <=-

    In my late 20s, I was lucky enough to go to Amsterdam for six weeks for work. It was one of the best adventures of my life. I hit all the major

    Sounds fantastic!

    This reminds me when my ex and I split and I was so utterly depressed I could barely function and I had a work trip to Romania for about three weeks. Let's just say Bucharest was very kind to my broken American
    heart at the time. It turned out to be a memorable and amazing trip
    which helped pull me out of my funk quick. And I visited places I would likely never have heard of otherwise.

    Now *that* is a great story! Have you ever considered writing (or are ou a writer)? Because you could easily develop that story into a full book. Part memoir, part travelogue.

    What was your favorite part of the trip? And your favorite place you
    traveled?


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BEX on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 17:04:00
    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    How far are you willing to walk?


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 19:07:00
    Which parks was that? The local ones all have homeless people, if you arrive at the wrong times (including some daylight hours).


    i posted a link. i think it's the natural forests.

    Thanks, I saw that today. Spooky!


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 19:09:00
    If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to hang around. Not to mention safer.


    Not to mention more cute and cuddly.

    Not real sure where the comparison to horses is offensive (at least, in
    this case), either. Maybe that is because I live in Kentucky where many
    people (male and female) regard their horses much more highly than their
    fellow humans.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 21:15:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to ARELOR <=-

    If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to hang around. Not to mention safer.

    Not to mention more cute and cuddly.

    Not real sure where the comparison to horses is offensive (at
    least, in this case), either. Maybe that is because I live in
    Kentucky where many people (male and female) regard their horses
    much more highly than their fellow humans.

    It isn't offensive to most, just to the "woke" types.

    I regard my dogs much more highly than most humans. ;-)



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 22:19:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Sep 27 2022 07:07 pm

    Which parks was that? The local ones all have homeless people, if you arrive at the wrong times (including some daylight hours).


    i posted a link. i think it's the natural forests.

    Thanks, I saw that today. Spooky!

    there's also a conspiracy about a 'smiley face killer'

    it's said that he pushes drunk college guys pissing into cold waterways and they drown. they call it the smiley face killer because at these locations they've seen the same smiley face spray painted where it happened. there was a police detective that came up with this hypothesis but they didn't believe him.
    i know shit happens but there's also some impulsive crazies that get off my pushing people into trains and shit.

    there certainly could be someone who is a serial killer (3 or more killings) and kills people this way. it gets blamed as an accident. it's easy to walk up and push someone and then walk away.

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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to bex on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 21:07:00
    Now *that* is a great story! Have you ever considered writing (or are ou
    a writer)? Because you could easily develop that story into a full book. Part memoir, part travelogue.

    Perhaps, thanks for the pointer here! Honestly, I would love to write, and think I have enough bizarre life experiences to create some decent fiction. I was in the military for nearly a decade and have some pretty odd misadventures from that era of my life as well.

    The writing thing is tough though, simply because I hate everything I write. But, who knows. It's still actually something I'd love to do.

    What was your favorite part of the trip? And your favorite place you traveled?

    On a whim, a friend I made on the trip (also American) and I rented a car and drove to see the Bran Castle, which was the inspiration for Dracula. The castle was fascinating, and while we were exploring, a crazy snowstorm developed. We had to traverse some narrow mountain passes to get back to Bucharest in the snow, and halfway up the mountain the clutch died. My friend couldn't drive stick at all and I struggle with heights so it was already a tricky situation. Add to this that it's snowing like crazy, near blackout conditions, we stupidly decided to try to get back to Bucharest, and now we don't have a clutch...it was a nightmare. Nevertheless we grounded the cable that tells the starter you have the clutch engaged, which allowed us to start in gear with no clutch. I had to drive all the way back to Bucharest in the snow at night ... clutchless ... switching gears forcefully and praying the synchronizers wouldn't crap out lol.

    It was a hoot!

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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to Gamgee on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 21:09:00
    I regard my dogs much more highly than most humans. ;-)

    As do I! Well, in general, dogs are better than people IMO. And I'm woke as a mfer.

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  • From Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to bex on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 20:39:00
    Re: Exotic work trips
    By: bex to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Sep 27 2022 12:18:00


    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to bex <=-

    I loved work travel, pre-2001. I worked for a European company based
    out of London, and we'd have IT all-hands meetings 4 times a year, rotating between my office in San Francisco,
    London, Paris and Hamburg.

    I got lucky as a kid....

    my dads company that he started pretty much was going to kick him out as they wanted to concentrate on software (he was the hardware guy), so he said that well seeing as they going to start a place in australia, why didnt he go instead of being bought out.

    so when i left school at 16 we spent 8 years in austrlia and i was lucky enough to go almost everywhere other than tasmania (where my sister now lives) and darwin. ive dove the great barrier reef, been all over aus.

    that doesn't count the other "business trips" we tagged along with to bahrain, saudia arabia, and multiple states in the us (i now live in florida), not counting the stop overs in singapore, hong kong, china, and the fact my dads mom was from hamburg so we used to go there evry year via france or w/e.

    yes..

    I was one helluva lucky little shit :D i've been to more places than most people can say and i appreciate every bit of it.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to esc on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 08:21:00
    esc wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I regard my dogs much more highly than most humans. ;-)

    As do I! Well, in general, dogs are better than people IMO.

    No doubt about that!

    And I'm woke as a mfer.

    Well, you are in Kalifornia, so that's to be expected. :-)

    But... my comment before (which you snipped for some reason), regarding
    "woke" was how easily people like that are offended. It had nothing to
    do with the value of dogs vs humans.

    Excessive context snipping really doesn't help the flow of
    communication.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to bex on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 16:31:00
    bex wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    What are your favorite memories of that trip?

    1. The Pubs! So social, so friendly, and proper beer.

    2. Catching the Chelsea FC, next door to the hotel.

    3. The cabinet war rooms and the Army museum in London.

    4. Walking around Paris, eating lunch at a sidewalk cafe. Had a group dinner at a pop-up restaurant set up in front of a mansion, meals take a good 2
    1/2-3 hours.

    5. Walking around the Reeperbahn in Hamburg - it's a red light district,
    most anything was for sale. Walking past a huge metal building painted white with the pride colors striped across the front, and in huge pink letters,
    "GAY POLKA BAR". As we walked closer, we could hear the oom-pah, oom-pah of
    a polka beat... When the Beatles started out, they played the reeperbahn siz nights a week to hone their chops.


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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to Gamgee on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 09:09:00
    Well, you are in Kalifornia, so that's to be expected. :-)

    Ha! Yeah, it's funny, we are on a road trip and as soon as you get away from the populated areas, California has a completely different feel. I think people forget how big this state is and how diverse of a population that can make.

    But... my comment before (which you snipped for some reason), regarding "woke" was how easily people like that are offended. It had nothing to do with the value of dogs vs humans.

    I know, I was trying to be funny ;)

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 16:45:00
    there's also a conspiracy about a 'smiley face killer'

    There was a TV show several years ago... I think it was called "The Mentalist"... where the chief antagonist was a killer who left smiley
    faces, usually painted in red, at the scenes of all of his murders.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 20:13:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Sep 28 2022 04:45 pm

    there's also a conspiracy about a 'smiley face killer'

    There was a TV show several years ago... I think it was called "The Mentalist"... where the chief antagonist was a killer who left smiley
    faces, usually painted in red, at the scenes of all of his murders.

    they probably picked it off of the headlines.
    what i'm talking about is a real case and they thought the detective was nuts because he mentioned the spray paintings.

    i really think there is a pusher out there, or multiple ones.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Thursday, September 29, 2022 09:44:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Wed Sep 28 2022 08:13 pm

    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Sep 28 2022 04:45 pm

    there's also a conspiracy about a 'smiley face killer'

    There was a TV show several years ago... I think it was called "The Mentalist"... where the chief antagonist was a killer who left smiley faces, usually painted in red, at the scenes of all of his murders.

    they probably picked it off of the headlines.
    what i'm talking about is a real case and they thought the detective was nut because he mentioned the spray paintings.

    i really think there is a pusher out there, or multiple ones.


    Jack Webbs three TV series he produced, Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency all so urced their story lines from real police departments. IIRC Dragnet and Adam-12's stories were all LAPD, and Emergency sourced theirs from all over th e US. Several of the extra firefighters on Emergency were real LA County firefighters, and the dispatcher was voiced by the real county dispatcher.
    The county fire chief was the actual county fire chief.

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Thursday, September 29, 2022 10:17:00
    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting
    to hang around. Not to mention safer.

    Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Dumas Walker on Thursday, September 29, 2022 10:20:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to BEX <=-

    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    Hey now, we're talking about your situation here, not mine. But since you asked, in my youth I would've walked a half-hour each way and called that a gentle strolle. Now that I'm old, 15 minutes each way is a hell of a hike.
    :O


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to esc on Thursday, September 29, 2022 10:32:00
    esc wrote to bex <=-

    Now *that* is a great story! Have you ever considered writing (or are ou
    a writer)? Because you could easily develop that story into a full book. Part memoir, part travelogue.

    Perhaps, thanks for the pointer here! Honestly, I would love to write,

    The writing thing is tough though, simply because I hate everything I write. But, who knows. It's still actually something I'd love to do.

    I received the best bit of advice a few years ago. "Give yourself permission
    to suck." Most people are discouraged when their first draft is not very
    good. But almost *everyone's* first draft is not very good. You are just getting ideas down, and those come out ugly in writers like me. Some people
    say they can pop out ready-to-publish first drafts. Most of the rest of us
    need at least another draft or two to make the written work into what we
    see in our mind's eye.

    What was your favorite part of the trip? And your favorite place you traveled?

    car and drove to see the Bran Castle, which was the inspiration for Dracula. The castle was fascinating, and while we were exploring, a

    Damn, that is one amazing setting. And a spooky spontaneous destination!

    crazy snowstorm developed. We had to traverse some narrow mountain
    passes to get back to Bucharest in the snow, and halfway up the

    tells the starter you have the clutch engaged, which allowed us to
    start in gear with no clutch. I had to drive all the way back to
    Bucharest in the snow at night ... clutchless ... switching gears

    It was a hoot!

    Thank you for sharing that memory! That sounds like an adventure that will always live on in your memory. And it sounds like a story that would earn
    you a free drink or two at a local pub. (:


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Charles Blackburn on Thursday, September 29, 2022 11:44:00
    Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-

    I got lucky as a kid....

    so when i left school at 16 we spent 8 years in austrlia and i was
    lucky enough to go almost everywhere other than tasmania (where my
    sister now lives) and darwin. ive dove the great barrier reef, been all

    that doesn't count the other "business trips" we tagged along with to bahrain, saudia arabia, and multiple states in the us (i now live in florida), not counting the stop overs in singapore, hong kong, china,

    I am soooo jealous!!! Talk about a wonderful experience. What was your
    favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all humans. :O


    -+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, September 29, 2022 11:46:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to bex <=-

    1. The Pubs! So social, so friendly, and proper beer.
    2. Catching the Chelsea FC, next door to the hotel.
    3. The cabinet war rooms and the Army museum in London.
    4. Walking around Paris, eating lunch at a sidewalk cafe. Had a group

    Those all sound wonderful, except #2. I'm not much for football (soccer). I know, that's extremely American of me. :(

    building painted white with the pride colors striped across the front,
    and in huge pink letters, "GAY POLKA BAR". As we walked closer, we

    <3


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thursday, September 29, 2022 16:34:00
    There was a TV show several years ago... I think it was called "The Mentalist"... where the chief antagonist was a killer who left smiley faces, usually painted in red, at the scenes of all of his murders.

    they probably picked it off of the headlines.
    what i'm talking about is a real case and they thought the detective was nuts because he mentioned the spray paintings.

    Or someone who saw the show is immitating the paintings at their own crime scenes. People are sick so I don't doubt there could be a link between the crime scene paintings and the same killer(s).


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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to bex on Thursday, September 29, 2022 17:54:00
    I received the best bit of advice a few years ago. "Give yourself permission to suck." Most people are discouraged when their first draft
    is not very good. But almost *everyone's* first draft is not very good. You are just getting ideas down, and those come out ugly in writers like me. Some people say they can pop out ready-to-publish first drafts. Most of the rest of us need at least another draft or two to make the written work into what we see in our mind's eye.

    That's some good advice. I suffer from hating most things I create - I don't like my singing voice, for example. And yeah, I don't really give myself permission to suck, I hold myself to an impossible standard.

    Damn, that is one amazing setting. And a spooky spontaneous destination!

    It wasn't all that spooky in person! It was actually just a really cool, well preserved old castle with a ton of history.

    Thank you for sharing that memory! That sounds like an adventure that
    will always live on in your memory. And it sounds like a story that
    would earn you a free drink or two at a local pub. (:

    Ha! Too bad I don't drink! :P

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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to bex on Thursday, September 29, 2022 17:55:00
    I am soooo jealous!!! Talk about a wonderful experience. What was your favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all humans. :O

    *gasp* watch out for dropbears!

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Thursday, September 29, 2022 20:54:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Thu Sep 29 2022 04:34 pm

    they probably picked it off of the headlines.
    what i'm talking about is a real case and they thought the detective was nuts because he mentioned the spray paintings.

    Or someone who saw the show is immitating the paintings at their own crime scenes. People are sick so I don't doubt there could be a link between the crime scene paintings and the same killer(s).


    no, that was out of sequence time wise.

    the actual thing happened first.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to bex on Thursday, September 29, 2022 21:46:00
    bex wrote to Charles Blackburn <=-

    I am soooo jealous!!! Talk about a wonderful experience. What was
    your favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems
    like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all
    humans. :O

    I've been to several places in Australia, and every time was quite under-whelmed with the experiences.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to esc on Thursday, September 29, 2022 06:58:00
    esc wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Ha! Yeah, it's funny, we are on a road trip and as soon as you get away from the populated areas, California has a completely different feel. I think people forget how big this state is and how diverse of a
    population that can make.

    I've seen swastikas on front doors, confederate flags, TRUMP 2024 banners, people protesting vaccines on overpasses, people in trucks acting like
    idiots towards Prius drivers. and trucks blocking Tesla charging stations.

    You're right, you don't have to go far.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to bex on Friday, September 30, 2022 06:43:00
    bex wrote to esc <=-

    I received the best bit of advice a few years ago. "Give yourself permission to suck." Most people are discouraged when their first draft
    is not very good. But almost *everyone's* first draft is not very good.

    That's some of the best advice coming out of NANOWRIMO, the National Novel Writer's Month, in November every year. The goal is to connect with other like-minded writers and finish a 45,000 word novel in the month of November.

    The advice I took from the experiences is "Get it done, let it suck, then refine it".

    It's too easy to get discouraged because it's not The Great Gatsby, or to start wordsmithing to distract from progressing through the novel, but if
    you focus on getting a draft out, then making it shine, it's possible.






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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Friday, September 30, 2022 09:55:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Thu Sep 29 2022 10:17 am

    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to hang around. Not to mention safer.

    Damn, my twit list is filling up today...


    No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person said something the horse didn't want to hear.

    Point for the horses.

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  • From Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to bex on Friday, September 30, 2022 12:11:00
    Re: Re: Exotic work trips
    By: bex to Charles Blackburn on Thu Sep 29 2022 11:44:00


    so when i left school at 16 we spent 8 years in austrlia and i was
    lucky enough to go almost everywhere other than tasmania (where my
    sister now lives) and darwin. ive dove the great barrier reef, been all
    I am soooo jealous!!! Talk about a wonderful experience. What was your favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all
    humans. :O

    nah, just treat them with respect and be careful you're fine.

    as far as favorite city, i don't know. i think probably alice springs cus it's a small place considering but it's nice and quiet. as far as a big town. I love sydney, but we lived in a suburb of melbourne called "dandenong" and there's a couple of big hills there that I used to go up all the time, but there's a few resorvoirs out there that you can go to and it's in the middle of nowhere and really quiet and peaceful.

    cardinia ressorvior i beleive it was called. Used to spend hours up there by myself just listening to music and the animals.

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  • From Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to esc on Friday, September 30, 2022 12:14:00
    Re: Re: Exotic work trips
    By: esc to bex on Thu Sep 29 2022 17:55:00

    I am soooo jealous!!! Talk about a wonderful experience. What was your favorite city? I would love to visit Australia,
    but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all humans. :O
    *gasp* watch out for dropbears!

    they're fine just dont walk underneath the vicious little fookers :D

    regards
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Friday, September 30, 2022 12:28:00
    Re: Re: Spending time vs mone
    By: bex to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 29 2022 10:20 am

    Dumas Walker wrote to BEX <=-

    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    Hey now, we're talking about your situation here, not mine. But since you asked, in my youth I would've walked a half-hour each way and called that a gentle strolle. Now that I'm old, 15 minutes each way is a hell of a hike. :O


    -+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3

    ... Leela: This wangs chung.

    The most I walk these days is around a big box store or a shopping center. Last month I went to the county fair, and which covers 160 acres comprised o f buildings rides, and exhibits. About half of that is parking, but it is still quite a haul walking through building after building, up and down the fairway, and through the food vendors and commercial exhibits. If you go
    there when there's no shuttle from the parking lot, you can walk a half mile from the parking lot to the barns. i was never what I call in shape as a kid but i could walk several laps around the grounds with my friends back in
    my teens.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Friday, September 30, 2022 12:42:00
    Re: Re: Exotic work trips
    By: bex to esc on Thu Sep 29 2022 10:32 am

    esc wrote to bex <=-

    Now *that* is a great story! Have you ever considered writing (or are o a writer)? Because you could easily develop that story into a full book Part memoir, part travelogue.

    Perhaps, thanks for the pointer here! Honestly, I would love to write,

    The writing thing is tough though, simply because I hate everything I write. But, who knows. It's still actually something I'd love to do.

    I received the best bit of advice a few years ago. "Give yourself permission to suck." Most people are discouraged when their first draft is not very good. But almost *everyone's* first draft is not very good. You are just getting ideas down, and those come out ugly in writers like me. Some people say they can pop out ready-to-publish first drafts. Most of the rest of us need at least another draft or two to make the written work into what we
    see in our mind's eye.

    What was your favorite part of the trip? And your favorite place you traveled?

    car and drove to see the Bran Castle, which was the inspiration for Dracula. The castle was fascinating, and while we were exploring, a

    Damn, that is one amazing setting. And a spooky spontaneous destination!

    crazy snowstorm developed. We had to traverse some narrow mountain passes to get back to Bucharest in the snow, and halfway up the

    tells the starter you have the clutch engaged, which allowed us to start in gear with no clutch. I had to drive all the way back to Bucharest in the snow at night ... clutchless ... switching gears

    It was a hoot!

    Thank you for sharing that memory! That sounds like an adventure that will always live on in your memory. And it sounds like a story that would earn you a free drink or two at a local pub. (:


    -+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3

    ... "Learn to use ten minutes intelligently. It will pay you huge dividends.


    An instructor I had in junior college used to say writing is a heurisitic process. In order to prevent getting overwhelmed in the process, break it down. Get the idea down first. The instructor taught the class from the
    word processing room, which was rows of pc's with pfs: write installed (this was 1988.) It was easier than working on paper, he told us. We would lay
    down ideas and the substance first, then continuously modify it until it all makes sense. The pc was an awesome tool for making editing.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Friday, September 30, 2022 12:54:00
    Re: Re: Exotic work trips
    By: bex to Charles Blackburn on Thu Sep 29 2022 11:44 am

    Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-

    I got lucky as a kid....

    so when i left school at 16 we spent 8 years in austrlia and i was lucky enough to go almost everywhere other than tasmania (where my sister now lives) and darwin. ive dove the great barrier reef, been all

    that doesn't count the other "business trips" we tagged along with to bahrain, saudia arabia, and multiple states in the us (i now live in florida), not counting the stop overs in singapore, hong kong, china,

    I am soooo jealous!!! Talk about a wonderful experience. What was your favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all humans. :O


    -+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3

    ... "Oh, you in trouble dum-dum. You'd better run-run. From Atilla the Hun-h


    Speaking of inhospitable environments, i had an idea for a story about colonists from Earth settling other worlds, and how even a Goldilocks Planet (not too big, not too cold, but just right) could be workable, yet full of inhospitable life forms. The flora and fauna could be toxic or inedible, and adopting Earth plants and animals to live there could be difficult.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Arelor on Friday, September 30, 2022 14:17:00
    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to hang around. Not to mention safer.

    Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

    No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because
    that person said something the horse didn't want to hear.

    Point for the horses.

    I'd call it: Game, Set, and Match to the horses.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, September 30, 2022 16:40:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to esc on Thu Sep 29 2022 06:58 am

    I've seen swastikas on front doors,


    bullshit. you are a fucking liar


    people in trucks acting like
    idiots towards Prius drivers.

    that's only because prius drivers are douchebags.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BEX on Friday, September 30, 2022 16:28:00
    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    Hey now, we're talking about your situation here, not mine. But since you asked, in my youth I would've walked a half-hour each way and called that a gentle strolle. Now that I'm old, 15 minutes each way is a hell of a hike.
    :O

    We really were not talking about my situation, either. Originally, I was only pointing out that someone else was correct when they said that it takes money to date someone and keep them interested.

    Reason I asked you is because (1) I think you are slightly younger than I
    am (and therefore younger than women my age), and (2) I was pretty certain
    that I live farther away from all these wonderful, walkable free things than the distance you'd be willing to walk.

    There is one park that I might be able to get to from here in 15 minutes walking, if I am able to catch the traffic at a major highway intersection
    just right. That is also the park where the junkies hang out, which does
    not tick you "safety" box. Plus, if I had someone with me, it'd take
    longer than 15 minutes.

    Any of this other wonderful free stuff is not within "free travel" distance
    for anyone who might be walking with me (although some of it would be in walking distance for me... 30 minutes one way is nothing unless it is
    Summer).


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Friday, September 30, 2022 16:49:00
    they probably picked it off of the headlines.
    what i'm talking about is a real case and they thought the detective was nuts because he mentioned the spray paintings.

    Or someone who saw the show is immitating the paintings at their own crime scenes. People are sick so I don't doubt there could be a link between the
    crime scene paintings and the same killer(s).


    no, that was out of sequence time wise.

    the actual thing happened first.

    So this smiley face drunk-drowner thing happened before 2008? I thought it
    was more recent than that but if it was before 2008 you are correct.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Friday, September 30, 2022 16:35:00
    Jack Webbs three TV series he produced, Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency all so
    urced their story lines from real police departments. IIRC Dragnet and Adam-12's stories were all LAPD, and Emergency sourced theirs from all over th
    e US. Several of the extra firefighters on Emergency were real LA County firefighters, and the dispatcher was voiced by the real county dispatcher.

    IIRC, the dispatcher on Adam-12 was also a real one.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Friday, September 30, 2022 16:40:00
    I've seen swastikas on front doors, confederate flags, TRUMP 2024 banners, people protesting vaccines on overpasses, people in trucks acting like
    idiots towards Prius drivers. and trucks blocking Tesla charging stations.

    You're right, you don't have to go far.

    "They" tell us that this kind of things only happens in "the South" but I
    have never seen any of those things aside from Confederate flags (which I
    have not seen lately) and Trump banners. I have not seen anything else
    like the rest of those things.

    So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean California?


    * SLMR 2.1a * I before E except after C, huh? Weird.....

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Friday, September 30, 2022 16:41:00
    Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

    No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person said
    something the horse didn't want to hear.

    Point for the horses.

    Yes. I'd not blame her if you'd cursed her or something, but you didn't so
    I thought it was a little harsh.


    * SLMR 2.1a * Stewardess trainee: "Where does THIS door gooooooooooo...

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, October 01, 2022 14:21:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Sep 30 2022 04:49 pm


    the actual thing happened first.

    So this smiley face drunk-drowner thing happened before 2008? I thought it was more recent than that but if it was before 2008 you are correct.


    not sure information does go missing over time even on the internet. i think it's before 2008. 2008 doesnt seem like a long time away for me.

    the smiley face thing just might be something the detective though was related but wasnt. i think there are certainly people pushing people into cold water early in the morning for the rush.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, October 01, 2022 14:23:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Fri Sep 30 2022 04:40 pm


    "They" tell us that this kind of things only happens in "the South" but I have never seen any of those things aside from Confederate flags (which I have not seen lately) and Trump banners. I have not seen anything else
    like the rest of those things.

    So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean California?


    usually when there's something like this in the news, if you follow up on it , it ends up being some liberal college kid trying to fuel their cause with something. the bad guy isn't doing anything so they have to make the evidence.

    especially when there's swastikas and nooses.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, October 01, 2022 14:23:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Fri Sep 30 2022 04:41 pm

    Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

    No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person said
    something the horse didn't want to hear.

    Point for the horses.

    i hope whoever it was added me to the twit filter.
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  • From Brokenmind@VERT/TIABBS to Moondog on Saturday, October 01, 2022 07:56:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Sep 29 2022 09:44 am

    Jack Webbs three TV series he produced, Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency all so urced their story lines from real police departments. IIRC Dragnet and Adam-12's stories were all LAPD, and Emergency sourced theirs from all over th e US. Several of the extra firefighters on Emergency were real LA County firefighters, and the dispatcher was voiced by the real county dispatcher. The county fire chief was the actual county fire chief.

    Emergency was my favorite tv show growing up and I actually was a firefighter for 12 years before I was unable to countiune to serve due to injury. I did not know the dispatchers voice was the real actual voice and that the county fire chief was real but i was aware that a few of the firefighters were actually firefighters in real life. My son was also a firefightr and my daughter is an EMT and just went back to school to get her RN.

    BrokenMind

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sunday, October 02, 2022 10:12:00
    Re: Re: Spending time vs mone
    By: Dumas Walker to BEX on Fri Sep 30 2022 04:28 pm


    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak fr

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    Hey now, we're talking about your situation here, not mine. But since you asked, in my youth I would've walked a half-hour each way and called that gentle strolle. Now that I'm old, 15 minutes each way is a hell of a hike. :O

    We really were not talking about my situation, either. Originally, I was on pointing out that someone else was correct when they said that it takes mone to date someone and keep them interested.

    Reason I asked you is because (1) I think you are slightly younger than I
    am (and therefore younger than women my age), and (2) I was pretty certain that I live farther away from all these wonderful, walkable free things than the distance you'd be willing to walk.

    There is one park that I might be able to get to from here in 15 minutes walking, if I am able to catch the traffic at a major highway intersection just right. That is also the park where the junkies hang out, which does not tick you "safety" box. Plus, if I had someone with me, it'd take
    longer than 15 minutes.

    Any of this other wonderful free stuff is not within "free travel" distance for anyone who might be walking with me (although some of it would be in walking distance for me... 30 minutes one way is nothing unless it is Summer).


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    Ok, in most cases there is nothing completely free, because even a stay at home dinner date will require the cost of electricity, cost of water and
    other utilities. Add to that the cost of soap, shampoo and clothing, and the cost of food and drink.

    Cost of travel may just be a given, and required element in most cases to socialize, unless you meet someone who is cool enough to drive everywhere.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sunday, October 02, 2022 10:34:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Fri Sep 30 2022 04:35 pm

    Jack Webbs three TV series he produced, Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency al urced their story lines from real police departments. IIRC Dragnet and Adam-12's stories were all LAPD, and Emergency sourced theirs from all ove e US. Several of the extra firefighters on Emergency were real LA County firefighters, and the dispatcher was voiced by the real county dispatcher.

    IIRC, the dispatcher on Adam-12 was also a real one.


    * SLMR 2.1a * Hell is full. The damned are now in Tech Support.

    It doesn't surprise me. Jack Webb had donated enough money to the LAPD over the years it paid for a building at the police academy. The actual police aca demy makes an appearance in the opening credits of the 70's Charlies Angels
    TV series.

    It was interesting that the three Jack Webb series were all spinoffs, and
    took place in the same TV universe. There was an episode of Adam-12 where
    they had to spend a day or two doing airport security, and that story felt
    like a possible spinoff. There was also talk of one of the paramedics
    leaving LA and becoming a park ranger. that would've been the springboard
    for another series.

    I have one nitpick about Adam 12. Their radio ID was 1 Adam 12. The number
    1 designates precinct or patrol area, Adam is the police phonetic for a 2 man patrol car, and 12 tells them apart from the other patrol cars. Precinct 1
    was downtown LA, and Precinct 2 was west of downtown, also known as Rampart.

    Adam 12 operated out of the Rampart station on the series (show was filmed in west LA county) so technically their radio callsign should be 2 Adam 12

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sunday, October 02, 2022 10:37:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Fri Sep 30 2022 04:40 pm

    I've seen swastikas on front doors, confederate flags, TRUMP 2024 banners, people protesting vaccines on overpasses, people in trucks acting like idiots towards Prius drivers. and trucks blocking Tesla charging stations.

    You're right, you don't have to go far.

    "They" tell us that this kind of things only happens in "the South" but I have never seen any of those things aside from Confederate flags (which I have not seen lately) and Trump banners. I have not seen anything else
    like the rest of those things.

    So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean California?


    * SLMR 2.1a * I before E except after C, huh? Weird.....


    You can find those behaviors anywhere in varying degrees. In some places you don't have to look as hard.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Monday, October 03, 2022 16:21:00
    the smiley face thing just might be something the detective though was related
    ut wasnt. i think there are certainly people pushing people into cold water ea
    y in the morning for the rush.

    There seem to be people out there who are pretty sick, so pushing drunks
    into the water wouldn't be much of a stretch of the imagination.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Monday, October 03, 2022 16:16:00
    Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

    No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person
    said
    something the horse didn't want to hear.

    Point for the horses.

    i hope whoever it was added me to the twit filter.

    Their puny twit filter will be no match for the mighty MRO bot-net! :D


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Monday, October 03, 2022 16:20:00
    It was interesting that the three Jack Webb series were all spinoffs, and took place in the same TV universe. There was an episode of Adam-12 where they had to spend a day or two doing airport security, and that story felt like a possible spinoff. There was also talk of one of the paramedics leaving LA and becoming a park ranger. that would've been the springboard for another series.

    If they were all spinoffs, what series did the first one spinoff from? I
    think I vaguely remember hearing about a possible plan regarding one
    leaving to become a ranger.

    I have one nitpick about Adam 12. Their radio ID was 1 Adam 12. The number 1 designates precinct or patrol area, Adam is the police phonetic for a 2 man patrol car, and 12 tells them apart from the other patrol cars. Precinct 1 was downtown LA, and Precinct 2 was west of downtown, also known as Rampart.

    Adam 12 operated out of the Rampart station on the series (show was filmed in west LA county) so technically their radio callsign should be 2 Adam 12

    Wow, you really know your stuff! :) I didn't know that but now that I do
    it will bother me also! :D


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Monday, October 03, 2022 16:21:00
    You can find those behaviors anywhere in varying degrees. In some places you don't have to look as hard.

    I agree on both counts. Having lived all my life in this area, I sometimes
    get tired of certain stereotypes.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Monday, October 03, 2022 21:25:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Oct 03 2022 04:16 pm

    Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

    No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person
    said
    something the horse didn't want to hear.

    Point for the horses.

    i hope whoever it was added me to the twit filter.

    Their puny twit filter will be no match for the mighty MRO bot-net! :D

    i think only nelgin and poindexter have me in their twitlist.
    so sad ;[

    i should go on their bbs and post and they will wonder why they can see me.
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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to MRO on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 02:08:00
    i think only nelgin and poindexter have me in their twitlist.

    I don't have anyone in my twitlist, but I'm sure I am in a few ;)

    On a side note, I noticed once I gave up alcohol, I seemingly gave up getting in heated online debates. Maybe these are connected.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 14:40:00
    Re: Jack Webb TV shows
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Mon Oct 03 2022 04:20 pm

    It was interesting that the three Jack Webb series were all spinoffs, and took place in the same TV universe. There was an episode of Adam-12 where they had to spend a day or two doing airport security, and that story felt like a possible spinoff. There was also talk of one of the paramedics leaving LA and becoming a park ranger. that would've been the springboard for another series.

    If they were all spinoffs, what series did the first one spinoff from? I think I vaguely remember hearing about a possible plan regarding one
    leaving to become a ranger.

    I have one nitpick about Adam 12. Their radio ID was 1 Adam 12. The numb 1 designates precinct or patrol area, Adam is the police phonetic for a 2 patrol car, and 12 tells them apart from the other patrol cars. Precinct was downtown LA, and Precinct 2 was west of downtown, also known as Rampar

    Adam 12 operated out of the Rampart station on the series (show was filmed west LA county) so technically their radio callsign should be 2 Adam 12

    Wow, you really know your stuff! :) I didn't know that but now that I do it will bother me also! :D


    * SLMR 2.1a * Do not look in laser with remaining eye.

    I worded that wrong. Dragnet was first, an Adam 12 and Emergency were spinoffs.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to esc on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 16:19:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: esc to MRO on Tue Oct 04 2022 02:08 am

    i think only nelgin and poindexter have me in their twitlist.

    I don't have anyone in my twitlist, but I'm sure I am in a few ;)

    On a side note, I noticed once I gave up alcohol, I seemingly gave up getting in heated online debates. Maybe these are connected.

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to esc on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 10:17:00
    esc wrote to bex <=-

    I received the best bit of advice a few years ago. "Give yourself permission to suck." Most people are discouraged when their first draft

    That's some good advice. I suffer from hating most things I create - I don't like my singing voice, for example. And yeah, I don't really give myself permission to suck, I hold myself to an impossible standard.

    Which is something that many of us do, unfortunately. I think turning 50
    made me realize that this is mostly a way to prevent us from taking any
    steps. If we don't want to do something until we can do it perfectly, we basically give ourselves an excuse for never trying. I have far fewer days ahead of me than are behind me, so I don't have time to wait.

    I must move forward, whether I achieve perfection or just a journal entry.

    Thank you for sharing that memory! That sounds like an adventure that
    will always live on in your memory. And it sounds like a story that
    would earn you a free drink or two at a local pub. (:

    Ha! Too bad I don't drink! :P

    Then I shall have the drinks for you!


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to esc on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 10:18:00
    esc wrote to bex <=-

    favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all humans. :O

    *gasp* watch out for dropbears!

    Holy canoli, I just googled "dropbear" and will now never be able to sleep again! :O


    -+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 10:36:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to bex <=-

    I received the best bit of advice a few years ago. "Give yourself permission to suck." Most people are discouraged when their first draft
    is not very good. But almost *everyone's* first draft is not very good.

    That's some of the best advice coming out of NANOWRIMO, the National

    It's too easy to get discouraged because it's not The Great Gatsby, or
    to start wordsmithing to distract from progressing through the novel,
    but if you focus on getting a draft out, then making it shine, it's

    I have actually participated in NaNoWriMo once. I only got about 21k
    words, but I did write what functioned as a novella. It was not very good,
    but there were a few scenes and one chapter that I was quite fond of. I
    could've seen the adventure as disappointing, since I wasn't able to get
    even half the word goal. Instead, I see it as a positive because I had so
    much fun on the project. I turned one of my ideas into an actual work of
    fiction, I created a character that I still have maternal instincts
    towards, and I scared myself a little. :blush:

    Wait... what were we talking bout?


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Charles Blackburn on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 10:44:00
    Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-

    nah, just treat them with respect and be careful you're fine.

    That's what they said about those aliens before the aliens blew up the
    White House...

    as far as favorite city, i don't know. i think probably alice springs
    cus it's a small place considering but it's nice and quiet. as far as a

    cardinia ressorvior i beleive it was called. Used to spend hours up
    there by myself just listening to music and the animals.

    Ah, that sounds so lovely! A pillow, a blanket, a book, the sound of the
    water lapping against the shore, the sounds of nature as music to my
    ears...

    Yeah, I could definitely spend some time there.


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Moondog on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 10:54:00
    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    center. Last month I went to the county fair, and which covers 160
    acres comprised o f buildings rides, and exhibits. About half of that

    Y'know, I haven't been to a county fair since... wow, I can't even really remember! Not since my kiddos were all in single-digit ages (they are now
    18, 16 and 14). I know what I want to do now!

    is parking, but it is still quite a haul walking through building after building, up and down the fairway, and through the food vendors and

    I am once again envious of you! Did you have a good time, aside from all
    the walking?


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Moondog on Wednesday, October 05, 2022 12:32:00
    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    process, break it down. Get the idea down first. The instructor
    taught the class from the word processing room, which was rows of pc's with pfs: write installed (this was 1988.) It was easier than working

    I reckon you must have a year or two on me - I was a senior in high school
    in 1988. We had Apple IIs for the most part, and our English teacher was
    not all that enthused about computers at all. She was old-school in 1988, I hope that she's caught up with the 1990s by now... :)

    on paper, he told us. We would lay down ideas and the substance first, then continuously modify it until it all makes sense. The pc was an awesome tool for making editing.

    That sounds like a great method. Finding a system that works for you, and
    is flexible enough for a person to tailor it to their style is perfect. My opinion is the tool should be as integral as a desk and a chair - there to support you but otherwise invisible, allowing a writer to put words to
    page.

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Moondog on Wednesday, October 05, 2022 13:02:00
    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    Speaking of inhospitable environments, i had an idea for a story about colonists from Earth settling other worlds, and how even a Goldilocks Planet (not too big, not too cold, but just right) could be workable,
    yet full of inhospitable life forms. The flora and fauna could be
    toxic or inedible, and adopting Earth plants and animals to live there could be difficult.

    That's a great story idea - you should definitely write that! I say that
    both selfishly, because I want to read that story! But also because it
    would be great to build out that idea into your own creation. I love it!


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, October 05, 2022 13:29:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to esc <=-

    I've seen swastikas on front doors, confederate flags, TRUMP 2024
    banners, people protesting vaccines on overpasses, people in trucks
    acting like idiots towards Prius drivers. and trucks blocking Tesla charging stations.

    You're right, you don't have to go far.

    *sigh* It's even sadder because it is so true. :(


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Wednesday, October 05, 2022 16:17:00
    I worded that wrong. Dragnet was first, an Adam 12 and Emergency were spinoff

    Before my work schedule got messed up again (post-COVID), I would usually
    be sitting down to breakfast while Dragnet was on. If it looked like it
    was going to be one about hippies, I knew it was going to be a good one and would hit REC. :)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Brokenmind on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 07:04:00
    Brokenmind wrote to Moondog <=-

    Emergency was my favorite tv show growing up and I actually was a firefighter for 12 years before I was unable to countiune to serve due
    to injury. I did not know the dispatchers voice was the real actual
    voice and that the county fire chief was real but i was aware that a
    few of the firefighters were actually firefighters in real life.


    Ask anyone who grew up in the 70s what the beep pattern for Squad 51, and they'll probably be able to mimic it.

    What I didn't know was that there was some PR element to the show. LA was
    part of a pilot program for fire departments to have EMTs driving alongside the traditional fire crews, and the tele-health units that transmitted vital signs to the hospital was new tech. The show was intended to show both off.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 07:46:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-

    "They" tell us that this kind of things only happens in "the South" but
    I have never seen any of those things aside from Confederate flags
    (which I have not seen lately) and Trump banners. I have not seen anything else like the rest of those things.

    So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean
    California?

    Not sure who "they" are, but anyone who can interpret a presidential
    election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.

    Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Moondog on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 09:06:00
    Moondog wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    and that story felt like a possible spinoff. There was also talk of
    one of the paramedics leaving LA and becoming a park ranger. that would've been the springboard for another series.

    If only a young David Hasselhoff made an appearance as an impressionable
    kid, they could have tied Baywatch the same 'verse.


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  • From Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to bex on Thursday, October 06, 2022 12:05:00
    Re: Re: Exotic work trips
    By: bex to esc on Tue Oct 04 2022 10:18:00

    esc wrote to bex <=-
    favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to
    kill all humans. :O
    *gasp* watch out for dropbears!

    Holy canoli, I just googled "dropbear" and will now never be able to sleep again! :O

    yea people think they're cute n cuddly... but they're vicious little fookers.

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  • From Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to bex on Thursday, October 06, 2022 12:08:00
    Re: Re: Exotic work trips
    By: bex to Charles Blackburn on Tue Oct 04 2022 10:44:00

    Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-

    nah, just treat them with respect and be careful you're fine.
    That's what they said about those aliens before the aliens blew up the White House...

    LOL but for the most part, check ya shoes in the morning, watch where you walk and you'll be fine.

    as far as favorite city, i don't know. i think probably alice springs
    cus it's a small place considering but it's nice and quiet. as far as a
    cardinia ressorvior i beleive it was called. Used to spend hours up
    there by myself just listening to music and the animals.

    Ah, that sounds so lovely! A pillow, a blanket, a book, the sound of the water lapping against the shore, the sounds of nature as music to my ears...

    oh yea.... and of course they have a website :D although most of the time i snuck through entrances that were'nt the main road :D

    https://www.parks.vic.gov.au/places-to-see/parks/cardinia-reservoir-parks

    Yeah, I could definitely spend some time there.

    i used to spend hours up there and if you can get up there before they shut the gates you would be up there all night, but what a helluva show in the sky at night

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Thursday, October 06, 2022 13:32:00
    Re: Re: Spending time vs mone
    By: bex to Moondog on Tue Oct 04 2022 10:54 am

    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    center. Last month I went to the county fair, and which covers 160 acres comprised o f buildings rides, and exhibits. About half of that

    Y'know, I haven't been to a county fair since... wow, I can't even really remember! Not since my kiddos were all in single-digit ages (they are now 18, 16 and 14). I know what I want to do now!

    is parking, but it is still quite a haul walking through building after building, up and down the fairway, and through the food vendors and

    I am once again envious of you! Did you have a good time, aside from all
    the walking?


    -+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3

    ... "Time has a way of getting away from us, because we never have a grip on


    One of my favorite hobbies is people watching. You get all types, shapes and sizes at big events. What amazes me is city kids that do not
    realize vegetables have to planted and harvested, and animals are the source
    of meat in stores.

    Goths at a fair interest me. It is 100 degrees F outside, and these kids are layered in black clothing. They all look like they're having fun underneath their depressing surface.

    I used to raise and show animals through 4-f, and had several friends I knew from the fair and summer who went to other schools. I lived at the edge of our
    school district, and my summer friends lived closer to me than my school friends.

    I'd lose touch with some friends due to shorter days in the fall and winter. I'd see them when my school played their school in basketball. On friday nigh t games our parents would take us out after the game, and we'd hang out playin g video games at the nearest tavern.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Thursday, October 06, 2022 13:45:00
    Re: Re: Exotic work trips
    By: bex to Moondog on Wed Oct 05 2022 12:32 pm

    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    process, break it down. Get the idea down first. The instructor taught the class from the word processing room, which was rows of pc's with pfs: write installed (this was 1988.) It was easier than working

    I reckon you must have a year or two on me - I was a senior in high school in 1988. We had Apple IIs for the most part, and our English teacher was not all that enthused about computers at all. She was old-school in 1988, I hope that she's caught up with the 1990s by now... :)

    on paper, he told us. We would lay down ideas and the substance first, then continuously modify it until it all makes sense. The pc was an awesome tool for making editing.

    That sounds like a great method. Finding a system that works for you, and
    is flexible enough for a person to tailor it to their style is perfect. My opinion is the tool should be as integral as a desk and a chair - there to support you but otherwise invisible, allowing a writer to put words to
    page.


    I graduated in 88 then went to junior college in the fall of 88. The library had Apple II'sand Laser 128's (Apple clone) WE received pc's for cad and draf ting the year after I graduated. My high school drafting teacher was taking
    a CAD course the next room over from my mechanical drawing classes. Fred did
    a good job, and most of it was review from school. There was another kid in the class that enjoyed drafting, and while the class was doing basic stuff,
    we were doing inking and transferring prints with the blueprint developer.

    Regardles the course of study, any project start out with a plan. Gather
    data, then sort and organize it to make sentences, paragraphs and chapters
    that make sense.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Thursday, October 06, 2022 14:15:00
    Re: Re: Exotic work trips
    By: bex to Moondog on Wed Oct 05 2022 01:02 pm

    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    Speaking of inhospitable environments, i had an idea for a story about colonists from Earth settling other worlds, and how even a Goldilocks Planet (not too big, not too cold, but just right) could be workable, yet full of inhospitable life forms. The flora and fauna could be toxic or inedible, and adopting Earth plants and animals to live there could be difficult.

    That's a great story idea - you should definitely write that! I say that both selfishly, because I want to read that story! But also because it
    would be great to build out that idea into your own creation. I love it!


    -+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3

    ... "This is my family. I found it, all on my own. It's little, and broken,

    World building is a pain. A new world with it's own rules must also comply
    to the rules several chapters into the story. Then there's fleshing out integral charaters. Winston Groom author of Forrest Gump, wrote a book where nearly every member in the rifle company was more than just a name. Other than the primary story, there were several side stories, and people's names would appear or be brought up which in turn added to their personal story.

    Regarding technology, I figure an important tool would be a device that could ingest alien bio stock, and rebuild it into something humans, microbes, and larger earth animals could ingest. Making a generic protein block that
    tastes like chicken would quick to make, but finding the ingredients to recombine into lasagna would be more difficult.

    Regarding other raw resources, there is a trick to using everything. The planet has woods full of dense overgrowth, but the majority is thick vines.
    Any attempt to process straight poles or beams is nearly impossible unless it is ground up into a fiber board material. Some "trees" are nearly imposible
    to burn on their own, and combust in the presence of certain other plant species. A house could be made fire retardant out of one one type of wood.
    A plasma cutter will burn through it, but all it does is vaporize.

    i would like some form of faster than light travel, except any trip to
    another planet would be a one way trip. This is the second colonizing
    mission to the planet, but due to the improvement in hyperspace technology, they second trip will beat the first trip by 30 to 50 years. The crew jokes about building temples and copies of ancient structures that cn be seen from s pace as the "first" crew arrives and wakes up.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Thursday, October 06, 2022 14:23:00
    Re: Jack Webb TV shows
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Wed Oct 05 2022 04:17 pm

    I worded that wrong. Dragnet was first, an Adam 12 and Emergency were spi

    Before my work schedule got messed up again (post-COVID), I would usually
    be sitting down to breakfast while Dragnet was on. If it looked like it
    was going to be one about hippies, I knew it was going to be a good one and would hit REC. :)


    * SLMR 2.1a * Football players do it after they are blitzed.


    Ah, hippies and misunderstood teenage revolution. Occasionally a clip from Dragnet appears on Facebook, when Friday chews out some teen becuase he wants to rebel since society is stacked against him. Funny part is you dind't know it was a clip from a show 55 years ago, you would think he's talking about millenials and their push button, on demand, want it now society.

    I though Emergency was the coolest. The portable EKG machine that could send telemetry back to the hospital was pretty slick. Portable defibulators were cool too.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, October 06, 2022 16:04:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Tue Oct 04 2022 07:46 am

    election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.

    Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.

    so the dumb people vote democrat?

    btw, how is your president doing. and how fun is it to walk through the streets and step in human feces and used needles.

    do they still have water lines setup for people to take showers on the sidewalks?
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, October 06, 2022 19:00:00
    So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean California?

    Not sure who "they" are, but anyone who can interpret a presidential election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.

    Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.


    Yes, they do.

    Trump-supporting counties are doing better recovering jobs than those that voted for Biden

    Source: CBS NEWS

    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/job-growth-in-trump-voting-counties-in-the-bid en-economy/?fbclid=IwAR0pXdoOomWuW9xBHCG32HjviKTLsE-nw8o7YJNpINGINqvfJ2IbgC91RP A#app

    https://tinyurl.com/ypmwvpzy

    "Counties around the U.S. where a majority of voters supported former President Donald Trump in the 2020 election are regaining their lost jobs under President Joe Biden more quickly than counties that voted in favor of the current president, according to a new analysis of labor data.

    "Through the end of the first quarter, Trump-supporting counties have regained nearly all the jobs they lost when the pandemic first slammed the economy in March of 2020, with employment just 0.3%, or 124,000 jobs, short of where it was prior to the COVID-19 crisis, the Economic Innovation Group found. Counties where a majority of residents voted for Biden had a deficit of 1.7 million jobs 1.8% short of pre-pandemic levels by the end of the first quarter of
    2022."

    They go on to draw the conclusion that this is because blue areas have higher populations and therefore lost more jobs which, of course, ignores that they are comparing percentages of lost jobs recovered and not total populations.

    I am guessing it is more likely state and local policies in these red voting areas that are helping in their faster recovery.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, October 06, 2022 22:15:00
    Re: Re: DRAGNET, ADAM-12 , EM
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Brokenmind on Tue Oct 04 2022 07:04 am

    Subject: Re: DRAGNET, ADAM-12 , EMERGENCY
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    Brokenmind wrote to Moondog <=-

    Emergency was my favorite tv show growing up and I actually was a firefighter for 12 years before I was unable to countiune to serve due to injury. I did not know the dispatchers voice was the real actual voice and that the county fire chief was real but i was aware that a few of the firefighters were actually firefighters in real life.


    Ask anyone who grew up in the 70s what the beep pattern for Squad 51, and they'll probably be able to mimic it.

    What I didn't know was that there was some PR element to the show. LA was part of a pilot program for fire departments to have EMTs driving alongside the traditional fire crews, and the tele-health units that transmitted vital signs to the hospital was new tech. The show was intended to show both off.




    ... Remember quiet evenings

    in later seasons the pumper truck was replacxed with a newer model. Chances are the Ward Lafrance (custom builder of fire trucks) provided it as test vehicle. On some episodes they'll be backed up by Squad 128(?) and they have one of those old mid-sixties Dodge ladder trucks with the open top roofs.
    The fire station on the show is real, at least when they film exterior shots.
    That is Squad 128's station and they park their trucks across the street furing the few outside shots. Squad 51 was decommissioned when a larger department relocated to cover a larger area. Since it was a non-existant precinct, fire calls made to it could me made during daytime hours and not disrupt other department operatrions. I heard 51 was put back into use by
    the universal studio tours as their onsite meergency response unit. The paramedic truck was built to LAFD specs by the prop department so it can be donated to the FD after the show's cancellation. The truck was never donated and appeared on CHiPs on a few occasions.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, October 06, 2022 22:19:00
    Re: Re: Spending time vs mone
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Moondog on Tue Oct 04 2022 09:06 am

    Subject: Re: Spending time vs money
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    Moondog wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    and that story felt like a possible spinoff. There was also talk of one of the paramedics leaving LA and becoming a park ranger. that would've been the springboard for another series.

    If only a young David Hasselhoff made an appearance as an impressionable kid, they could have tied Baywatch the same 'verse.


    ... Reward for a job well done: More work

    CHiPs is sort of connected to the franchise because Universal reused truck 51 on a few episodes.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Friday, October 07, 2022 17:40:00
    Ah, hippies and misunderstood teenage revolution. Occasionally a clip from Dragnet appears on Facebook, when Friday chews out some teen becuase he wants to rebel since society is stacked against him. Funny part is you dind't know it was a clip from a show 55 years ago, you would think he's talking about millenials and their push button, on demand, want it now society.

    LOL, yes a lot of what he says has become relevant again (if it ever
    wasn't).

    I though Emergency was the coolest. The portable EKG machine that could send telemetry back to the hospital was pretty slick. Portable defibulators were cool too.

    When I was young and it was on afternoon TV, I did, too. I even had a
    couple of their "official" plastic toy fireman hats.


    * SLMR 2.1a * A man without a gun will soon not be free.

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  • From Hylian@VERT to All on Saturday, October 08, 2022 11:20:00
    I was reading your posts, and it reminded me of my Grandpa Mike.

    He told me "You can make more money, you can't make more time."

    That's my opinion too.

    Time is finite.
    -Hylian

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Hylian on Saturday, October 08, 2022 14:27:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Hylian to All on Sat Oct 08 2022 11:20 am

    I was reading your posts, and it reminded me of my Grandpa Mike.

    He told me "You can make more money, you can't make more time."

    That's my opinion too.

    Time is finite.
    -Hylian

    who are you writing to? you posted to all.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Saturday, October 08, 2022 15:49:00
    Re: Jack Webb TV shows
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Fri Oct 07 2022 05:40 pm

    Ah, hippies and misunderstood teenage revolution. Occasionally a clip fro Dragnet appears on Facebook, when Friday chews out some teen becuase he wa to rebel since society is stacked against him. Funny part is you dind't k it was a clip from a show 55 years ago, you would think he's talking about millenials and their push button, on demand, want it now society.

    LOL, yes a lot of what he says has become relevant again (if it ever wasn't).

    I though Emergency was the coolest. The portable EKG machine that could s telemetry back to the hospital was pretty slick. Portable defibulators we cool too.

    When I was young and it was on afternoon TV, I did, too. I even had a couple of their "official" plastic toy fireman hats.


    * SLMR 2.1a * A man without a gun will soon not be free.


    I got a small black Plano fishing tacklebox. My father thought I was weird
    for keping band aids and bactine spray in it instead of fishing lures. My mother was an RN before becoming a full time mom. She knew the Emergency reference.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Hylian on Saturday, October 08, 2022 16:05:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Hylian to All on Sat Oct 08 2022 11:20 am

    I was reading your posts, and it reminded me of my Grandpa Mike.

    He told me "You can make more money, you can't make more time."

    That's my opinion too.

    Time is finite.
    -Hylian


    Money can't buy happiness, but it sure feels better crying in a heated
    leather car seat.

    At best it's about finding a balance or quality of life versus a long life
    with no resources to do more than just survive.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HYLIAN on Sunday, October 09, 2022 11:00:00
    I was reading your posts, and it reminded me of my Grandpa Mike.

    He told me "You can make more money, you can't make more time."

    +1

    As I have gotten older, I am very disappointed in my ability to continue to waste time.


    * SLMR 2.1a * This Tagline is Death-Trapped. Stay Away.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Sunday, October 09, 2022 11:00:00
    I got a small black Plano fishing tacklebox. My father thought I was weird for keping band aids and bactine spray in it instead of fishing lures. My mother was an RN before becoming a full time mom. She knew the Emergency reference.

    LOL!


    * SLMR 2.1a * Make like a nose and run.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Friday, October 07, 2022 06:28:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Trump-supporting counties are doing better recovering jobs than those
    that voted for Biden

    Source: CBS NEWS

    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/job-growth-in-trump-voting-counties-in- the-bid en-economy/?fbclid=IwAR0pXdoOomWuW9xBHCG32HjviKTLsE-nw8o7YJNpINGINqvfJ2I bgC91RP
    A#app

    They go on to draw the conclusion that this is because blue areas have higher populations and therefore lost more jobs which, of course,
    ignores that they are comparing percentages of lost jobs recovered and
    not total populations.

    I am guessing it is more likely state and local policies in these red voting areas that are helping in their faster recovery.


    They made a pretty good case for population density and a slower recovery,
    not local policies. On a state level, many red states receive more from the federal government than they pay out, so there could be an argument that
    those states benefit more than the blue states, which could skews recovery numbers.




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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, October 10, 2022 10:52:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Fri Oct 07 2022 06:28 am

    They made a pretty good case for population density and a slower recovery, not local policies. On a state level, many red states receive more from the federal government than they pay out, so there could be an argument that those states benefit more than the blue states, which could skews recovery numbers.



    that's because they are asking for help. maybe 'blue states' need to ask for help.

    i dont like this red vs blue division shit. that will get us all no where.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, October 11, 2022 16:26:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Tue Oct 04 2022 07:46 am

    Not sure who "they" are, but anyone who can interpret a presidential election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.

    Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.


    It would not surprise me. Big population centers tend to dilute responsibility so
    people takes responsibility as a group instead of individually.

    Case point: my boss sent me as a representative to a house owners association's meeting to discuss some budgets and other trivialities. I observed that the members of
    the group were very liberal with the use of money since it was not theirs, but the
    asociation's. A member would point at an issue that needed fixing, everybody would
    agree the issue needed fixing, and then somebody would propose a budget allocation for
    the problem. So far, so good. The concern I got from the meeting is that people was
    voting the budget allocations without asking how the money was going to be _used_ or
    what the utimate goals were.

    For example, if somebody pointed out that there was not enough money in the bank to
    purchase fuel, he would recommend to rise the membership's fee by ten EUR. Then everybody would agree without asking what the target was (ie. how much money do we
    expect to have in the bank account and for buying when, and how quickly did we need to
    raise the funds).

    Basically, they were throwing money into a pot and expecting the administrator to make
    the most of it so they don't have to worry, which is the socialist way.

    It is easy to make the comparison when you live in a unifamiliar house in which you
    need to count every penny and allocate every single dollar wisely, because if you lose
    control of the funds you freeze in winter. Urbanites throw money at the administrator
    and if things go wrong they blame a third party, meanwhile a rural redneck has to
    manage his own house himself and acknowledge that any failure at managing the funds is
    his mistake.

    It dawned on me some weeks ago The differences at managing one's life are so fundamental as to be unreconciliable.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Tuesday, October 11, 2022 18:23:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Oct 11 2022 04:26 pm

    Not sure who "they" are, but anyone who can interpret a presidential election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.

    Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.


    It would not surprise me. Big population centers tend to dilute


    that was just an ignorant comment he made

    https://i.imgur.com/3KHxRm6.png

    so he mentioned counties.
    i only know my own (democrat) state that well so i looked at election results from 2000 2004 2008 2012 2016 2020

    there's nothing to support his claim. if anything the rural people vote democrat because they think democrats are for the common man.

    source https://www.wisn.com/article/wisconsin-election-results-county-history/34131922
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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Charles Blackburn on Thursday, October 20, 2022 09:42:00
    Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-

    LOL but for the most part, check ya shoes in the morning, watch where
    you walk and you'll be fine.

    When I was a young'un, I put on my sneakers and felt something weird by my toes. I pulled off that shoe to find a centipede was hanging out in there!
    Ever since then, I give my shoes a couple smacks against a chair to
    dislodge any creepy crawlies that might've come to viit.

    i used to spend hours up there and if you can get up there before they shut the gates you would be up there all night, but what a helluva show

    Have you never watched a horror movie? Because staying anywhere after it
    closes is the first step towards being murdered!


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Moondog on Thursday, October 20, 2022 10:51:00
    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    One of my favorite hobbies is people watching. You get all types,
    shapes and sizes at big events. What amazes me is city kids that do
    not realize vegetables have to planted and harvested, and animals are
    the source of meat in stores.

    Hmm... they definitely go to different schools than my kiddos did. Their schools had field trips to farms and ranches around the area, lessons in science about foods we eat and where they come from and more.

    Goths at a fair interest me. It is 100 degrees F outside, and these
    kids are layered in black clothing. They all look like they're having
    fun underneath their depressing surface.

    My youngest daughter is very much goth, she dies her hair black, she has naturally pale skin that she highlights. (Side note: I am Hispanic but my youngest got none of the melatonin genes. My son is naturally tan. You can
    tell that they are siblings in their facial shape and features, but they
    look like night and day versions of each other.)

    She has periods where she's depressed, but for the most part she just likes
    the goth style.


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Moondog on Thursday, October 20, 2022 11:58:00
    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    I graduated in 88 then went to junior college in the fall of 88. The

    Hey, that means we are the same age. Class of '88 forever!!!

    library had Apple II'sand Laser 128's (Apple clone) WE received pc's
    for cad and drafting the year after I graduated. My high school
    drafting teacher was taking a CAD course the next room over from my

    I went to a really small high school (90 students, I graduated in a class
    of 20 students) and I don't think we had a drafting class.... but don't
    hold me to that. I was the resident smart girl - graduated salutatorian -
    but my interests were in biology and calculus. It's important for one to
    know her limitations.

    Regardles the course of study, any project start out with a plan.
    Gather data, then sort and organize it to make sentences, paragraphs
    and chapters that make sense.

    It does make sense. My brain doesn't exactly work like that for writing. I
    can work within sections, like "the first part will be where Rodrigo meets Linda and they become installed, the second part is when Rodrigo goes off
    to college and turns into a dick, the last part is when Linda and Rodrigo
    meet up again 20 years later." Then I just write and write to fill out the sections. After my first draft, then I go in and break up each section into chapters and scenes.

    I guess I am backwards regarding writing. :)


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Moondog on Monday, October 24, 2022 12:47:00
    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    World building is a pain. A new world with it's own rules must also comply to the rules several chapters into the story. Then there's fleshing out integral charaters. Winston Groom author of Forrest Gump, wrote a book where nearly every member in the rifle company was more
    than just a name. Other than the primary story, there were several
    side stories, and people's names would appear or be brought up which in turn added to their personal story.

    I think Scrivener with one of the various templates other writers have
    built work best for this type of thing. There is a template specifically
    for world-building that is supposedly a life-saver. I stick more to
    literary fiction, so the short-story template that is included with
    Scrivener works great, and I spend a ton of time writing character and
    setting sketches.

    I think that would probably really work well for you!


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Monday, October 24, 2022 15:22:00
    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: MRO to Ogg on Wed Sep 21 2022 02:48 am

    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Tue Sep 20 2022 11:47 pm

    I knew a friend who consistently failed with establishing a GF.
    His modus operandi was to get a girl for a wife and have kids,
    and he said that he threw that question out there early in the
    dating game. And he wondered why he rarely got a 2nd date.


    i don't think there's anything wrong with being direct, just as long
    as the delivery isn't crappy.

    Then you make an actual friend and he gets cancer and then
    COVID the same day, and the Welfare dudes decide to
    collectivelly murder the guy by inaction.

    Uh-oh. Sorry if I triggered a bad memory.

    millions of people died of covid because they were denied ****HORSE DEWORMER*** and that medication that trump and others took "hydroxychloroquine" and other medicines. that's what happens when you get evil pharmaceutical companies like merck involved with this bullshit. ivermectin is like 1 penny a dose.

    it's came out that some of these medications do help covid treatment.

    And then it came out that they didn't: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-06-horse-dewormer-ivermectin-covid-trials.html
    https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/hydroxychloroquine-effective-covid-19-3536024/
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Monday, October 24, 2022 18:43:00
    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Mon Oct 24 2022 03:22 pm

    ivermectin is like 1 penny a dose.

    it's came out that some of these medications do help covid treatment.

    And then it came out that they didn't: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-06-h orse-dewormer-ivermectin-covid-trials.html https://www.drugs.com/medical-ans wers/hydroxychloroquine-effective-covid-19-353 6024/


    yeah until next week when they think it does.

    i didn't follow the money on this article but i bet the pharm companies had their hand in it. merck was big on the anti ivermectin because they are one of the companies making a vaccine.

    it certainly has to be looked into further because these 2 drugs do show promise. there's some stories that says it doesn't improve recovery 'much'.
    that atleast means it does something for some people.

    we really understand very little about any of this.
    we can't even contain a contagious disease from spreading all over the world in a matter of days. that's pathetic.

    also ivermectin is more than a 'horse dewormer'; it's a legit drug. of course, people shouldn't take it in huge doses. that's just stupid.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Tuesday, October 25, 2022 17:31:00
    Re: Re: Spending time vs mone
    By: bex to Moondog on Thu Oct 20 2022 10:51 am

    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    One of my favorite hobbies is people watching. You get all types, shapes and sizes at big events. What amazes me is city kids that do not realize vegetables have to planted and harvested, and animals are the source of meat in stores.

    Hmm... they definitely go to different schools than my kiddos did. Their schools had field trips to farms and ranches around the area, lessons in science about foods we eat and where they come from and more.

    Goths at a fair interest me. It is 100 degrees F outside, and these kids are layered in black clothing. They all look like they're having fun underneath their depressing surface.

    My youngest daughter is very much goth, she dies her hair black, she has naturally pale skin that she highlights. (Side note: I am Hispanic but my youngest got none of the melatonin genes. My son is naturally tan. You can tell that they are siblings in their facial shape and features, but they look like night and day versions of each other.)

    She has periods where she's depressed, but for the most part she just likes the goth style.


    -+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3

    ... We all live in a yellow subroutine.

    My friend's son went through a psuedo goth phase. He only did it to hang out with some girl,then it ended as soon as they lost interest in each other.
    The strange part is their son was a cross country runner and general jock
    type, and did well academically. It was far from being a clique or social status thing. His friends that knew him understand he is cosmetic about
    things like that.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Tuesday, October 25, 2022 23:23:00
    Re: Re: Exotic work trips
    By: bex to Moondog on Thu Oct 20 2022 11:58 am

    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    I graduated in 88 then went to junior college in the fall of 88. The

    Hey, that means we are the same age. Class of '88 forever!!!

    library had Apple II'sand Laser 128's (Apple clone) WE received pc's for cad and drafting the year after I graduated. My high school drafting teacher was taking a CAD course the next room over from my

    I went to a really small high school (90 students, I graduated in a class
    of 20 students) and I don't think we had a drafting class.... but don't
    hold me to that. I was the resident smart girl - graduated salutatorian - but my interests were in biology and calculus. It's important for one to know her limitations.

    Regardles the course of study, any project start out with a plan. Gather data, then sort and organize it to make sentences, paragraphs and chapters that make sense.

    It does make sense. My brain doesn't exactly work like that for writing. I can work within sections, like "the first part will be where Rodrigo meets Linda and they become installed, the second part is when Rodrigo goes off
    to college and turns into a dick, the last part is when Linda and Rodrigo meet up again 20 years later." Then I just write and write to fill out the sections. After my first draft, then I go in and break up each section into chapters and scenes.

    I guess I am backwards regarding writing. :)


    -+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3

    ... "I would make a great queen because I am stubborn - if that is what I wanted

    It sounds like a character arc has been established. Filling in the holes is where I'd imagine it gets stickier, depending how charactes evolve over the times between their absences.

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  • From Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to bex on Wednesday, October 26, 2022 14:22:00
    Re: Re: Exotic work trips
    By: bex to Charles Blackburn on Thu Oct 20 2022 09:42:00

    Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-

    LOL but for the most part, check ya shoes in the morning, watch where
    you walk and you'll be fine.

    When I was a young'un, I put on my sneakers and felt something weird by my toes. I pulled off that shoe to find a centipede
    was hanging out in there! Ever since then, I give my shoes a couple smacks against a chair to
    dislodge any creepy crawlies that might've come to viit.

    hahaha been there done that. I do the same thing. especially if i've left them outside for any length of time.

    i used to spend hours up there and if you can get up there before they shut the gates you would be up there all night,
    but what a helluva show

    Have you never watched a horror movie? Because staying anywhere after it closes is the first step towards being murdered!

    yea.... and so is walking around a cemetary at night LOL....

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  • From HusTler@VERT/PHARCYDE to Charles Blackburn on Thursday, October 27, 2022 22:38:00
    Re: Re: Exotic work trips
    By: Charles Blackburn to bex on Wed Oct 26 2022 02:22 pm

    When I was a young'un, I put on my sneakers and felt something weird by
    my toes. I pulled off that shoe to find a centipede was hanging out in there! Eeeeeeeeeeeewww! GROSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ever since then, I give my shoes a couple smacks against a chair
    to dislodge any creepy crawlies that might've come to viit.

    |07 HusTler


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  • From Mikek@VERT/SNOCONE to esc on Friday, October 28, 2022 19:43:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: esc to MRO on Mon Sep 12 2022 18:59:00


    Mike

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    Retro computing related stuff mostly
    Snohomish, WA

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Moondog on Monday, October 31, 2022 13:03:00
    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    Regardles the course of study, any project start out with a plan. Gather data, then sort and organize it to make sentences, paragraphs and chapters that make sense.

    It does make sense. My brain doesn't exactly work like that for writing. I can work within sections, like "the first part will be where Rodrigo meets

    It sounds like a character arc has been established. Filling in the
    holes is where I'd imagine it gets stickier, depending how charactes evolve over the times between their absences.

    That is exactly right! As you had said, projects start out with some type
    of plan, some type of skeleton that one builds and then fills in. Building
    that frame opens one up to make wonderful or beautiful things.

    Have I mentioned I really love to write? <3


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Charles Blackburn on Monday, October 31, 2022 13:06:00
    Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-

    When I was a young'un, I put on my sneakers and felt something weird by my toes. I pulled off that shoe to find a centipede

    hahaha been there done that. I do the same thing. especially if i've
    left them outside for any length of time.

    *shudder*

    i used to spend hours up there and if you can get up there before they
    shut the gates you would be up there all night,

    Have you never watched a horror movie? Because staying anywhere after it closes is the first step towards being murdered!

    yea.... and so is walking around a cemetary at night LOL....

    Has anyone ever suggested that you are an adrenaline junkie? 'cuz some of
    the things you say make me wonder. Or maybe you like to court danger? Or
    mebbe you are a necromancer...

    :O


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  • From Dalamar@VERT/BBSKYPCT to MRO on Thursday, November 24, 2022 08:57:00
    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Mon Oct 24 2022 06:43 pm

    Re: a very task oriented person

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  • From Dalamar@VERT/BBSKYPCT to MRO on Thursday, November 24, 2022 08:58:00
    Re: a very task oriented person
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Mon Oct 24 2022 06:43 pm

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